Direct monitoring an Ableton *Mix* using AFCC?

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#1

I run 32 channels of synths and drum machines into the 16Rig and ADAT inputs, and I typically record performances all at once, in long chunks or for an entire song. I have my latency for MIDI and Audio performance dialed in perfectly, but the best way I have found to get zero latency in Ableton, is by setting the monitor for each track to Off (leaving me unable to monitor myself at all). Obviously I could direct monitor through the AFCC mixer, but I was wondering if anyone has thought of or could figure out a way that I could send a track from Ableton, maybe a Return track, or the Cue Mix, into a digital USB input in to the AFCC, to monitor myself while recording. Then I could hear the mix as it is in Ableton, as I’m recording.

I still haven’t really figured out how the USB inputs work in the 16 Rig, for instance, there are 32 USB inputs, but how to they work? I usually only use USB 1-2 because thats my DAW Master out. If anyone can help figure out a way to direct monitor this way, it would be a game changer.

#2

Hello

Not sure I understood the problem but here is a basic example of using additional USB Outputs in Live! (sorry screenshot in french)

In Live:

  • In the preferences I setup the HW Outputs and I add 3/4 (I’ve also added 5/6 but we don’t care)

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  • I create a track
  • I set “Audio From” on “Master” “Post Mixer”.
  • I set “Audio To” on “3/4”*

In AFCC:

  • I go into the matrix page and tick USB 3/4 to be outputted in my Phones

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I am now monitoring my live output in my Phones and I still get Live! Master to be outputted on USB1/2 (which can also be routed to anything you’d like, probably your Speakers but as you can see on the matrix screenshot, mine is not routed at all because I don’t even have speakers).

Hope that helps :slight_smile:

Cheers !

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#3

I see. I am trying to figure out how I could use it to make a separate monitor mix so I could monitor tracks recording in Live, without having them set to In or Auto, because that introduces latency in the recording. Not sure if it’s possible.

#4

You can set up a monitoring mix in AudioFuse Control Center, but you can’t control the 16Rig mixer using the controls in Ableton, unfortunately.

I had a crack at creating a Max for Live device that would control the 16Rig mixer using MIDI mapping, but it doesn’t support receiving USB MIDI from the host computer, only devices connected to the USB A port on the front. I hope this will be implemented in the future!

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#5

Tim from Arturia just confirmed in another thread that they are adding the ability to control the mixer from the computer host in the future! So, hopefully soon I’ll be able to try again at my M4L device.

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