In Library/Audio/Plug-Ins I have both VST and VST3 directories.
To use Pigments as an example.
In Library/audio/Plug-Ins/VST I have “Pigments.vst” 56.7 MB
In Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST3 I have “Pigments.vst3” 56.7 MB
OK Simple enough, if I want to remove a VST2 entry I just delete it from Library/audio/Plug-Ins/VST?
However If I go to Library/Arturia/Pigments (it’s the same for all instruments) I also have both of the vst files in there,
“Pigments.vst” 56.7 MB and “Pigments.vst3” 56.7MB
I presume that as I can remove a VST2 by removing it from Library/audio/Plug-Ins/VST then the vst’s in Library/Arturia aren’t referenced at all? If that’s the case, why does the installer put them there?
While I have a lot of spare internal SSD space, I always try not to have anything unnecessary installed.
Note: Main studio is Windows, hence using VST3 on Mac
The problem is, that unless you choose not to install VST2, then they will be reinstalled at the next update.
If you uncheck Silent Install in ASC at the next update, then i think you get an option to deselect VST2 install.
I’m not sure if clearing the VST2 path in ASC will do the same. A clear global deselect would be nice to have.
The standalone installers have the option to deselect some plugin formats install.
I do think VST2 can be deselected for install, but it’s a long time since i ran a install with the install options.
I believe you can simply delete the .DLL files from your plug-ins folder, probably can delete that whole folder since the VST3s are usually in their own folder. Might have to re-scan libraries after…
Having similar issues - I’m trying to free up space by deleting the vst’s I don’t use from both the plug-ins folder and the library folder, but then the product is showing as 'not installed ’ in software centre. I’ve disabled silent install and deselected VSTs when re-installing, but it’s still putting a copy of the VST in the library/arturia file . Any advice please anyone?
Where and how exactly did you deselect not to install VST’s? The install should not install anything that you have deselected to install.
Did you deselect all VST format’s?
Have you tried to download use standalone installers?
Anyway - You do not save much space by not installing a plugin format for a few applications. You shall uninstall the installed application with all it’s resources and not install it again to really save space.
If needed:
FYI just in case anyone would use the option: You can customize the resource folders location, if you want to, and don’t find it difficult to work with. I personally prefer using internal disks. But for some it can be a way to save space on a internal disk to have the resource folder on a external disk:
I’m not sure i understand the “not Installed” message you mention. If an application is not installed, then you should get a button labeled “Install” in ASC.
I’m on Windows but i think it’s the same on a MAC.
LBH. I can see why it’s being done. I have a Mac mini that seems to want to run out of space. the VST files can range from 32mb ~ 165mb in size. at the smaller end I can see a few of them not having much of an impact, but on the upper end when you are dealing with installing the whole V_Collection and FX_Collection just cutting out the VST and AAX (I only needed the AU) saved me around 4-5gb of storage space. That isn’t an inconsequential space.
Exactly , the system files on my 256gb iMac are over 100gb so trying to reduce what is in there nd what is not needed. Arturia seem to put a copy of the vsts (which I don’t need) in the Arturia folder as well as in the VST folder.
Ive deleted the VSTs from the VST folder AND the library/arturia folder, which free’s up the space I need. Unfortunately when I then go into software centre it’s stating that the synths / plug ins etc are ‘not installed’ even though the Audio Units are still working fine … So I unticked ‘silent install’ and then deselected the VSTs and standalone versions, leaving just the Audio Units. However, even though its not installing the VST’s back into the 'plug-ins ’ folder, its still putting a copy of them back into the Library/Arturia folder which just clogs it up as I have so many arturia devices…
When I upgraded from a 1Tb iMac to a 512Gb Mac Mini M2, I knew I was heading to a storage problem as Arturia and Logic take up a lot of space. So, I purchased a fast 1Tb external SSD to move all Arturias and Logics resources to. I also save my music project there too. Of course I have a slow hard drive to back up the SSD
Yes i know @innovationsinm. And i do agree it can matter for some users. I have long time ago stated and argued about that.
Instruments that use audio samples use far more space than pure coded instruments.
On Windows all Arturias software instruments and effects is 4 GB for all VST2, VST3 and AAX plugins. It’s less than 25 MB pr VSTx and almost nothing for AAX. Only Analog Lab is more but not even twice as much. It’s around 2 GB if it’s only instruments. I would assume it’s the same on a MAC.
In comparaison with what much software take of space today, then it’s not much.
Removing sampled instruments, instruments that use audio samples or just plain audio samples can quickly free much more space.
Also if you don’t have room enough for that 4-5 Gb space you mention, then you probably do not have space to expand, upgrade or have much workspace for projects. In many cases one probably need to find even more space somehow anyway. You can soon and very easy get in need of space even without installing the plugins. But yes it might help for a period of time, but perhaps only a short time.
Never the less, then i still don’t say not too not install the plugins, if one knows they won’t ever be needed even for functionality that AU plugins perhaps can’t provide.
I just give informations and suggestions to get even more space in one way or another, if a user rather would like that.
AS @Funtmaster recommend also remember to do backups of your own files.
I don’t know what the files you call duplicates are @moomaaman. Are you sure it’s VST’s?. Anyway - I assume they are used for something, since hey are installed. @Jon_Vincent might be correct about this.
But you are not the first talking about this. I suggest you ask Arturia support about this files, if you want to know what they are - and are used for.
About the “not installed” message, then the applications is installed, if you can use them. I don’t know about the message. You can ask Arturia support about it, if you need to.
It might be a warning/ hint that not all is installed, since the VST’s and perhaps the AAX are not?
Thanks LBH, yes I suspect that is the case too- a warning that not all is installed.
I will look to move all the Arturia Support files onto my SSD then, as Funtmaster suggested. It’s not that I’m too low on disk space but want to keep as much free as poss on the system drive . BTW I have also raised a ticket with arturia - I’ll update you guys if I get any useful info
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