to get the background out of the way I’m a new user to Ableton 12 standard. I have an analog V hooked up to a midi track using the “organ - clean jazz” instrument.
Here is my issue:
Typically when the instrument is working as intended, the sound is full and produces this clicky echoing sound when keys are struck ( I like this).
However recently, upon loading, or even just randomly when working on my session. The sound of the organ changes, the volume is decreased, and the clicky sound is gone. Overall the organ sounds a lot worse.
Through some troubleshooting, it doesn’t seem to be an issue with my session as while my track is playing I can switch from the organ to another instrument and back again (with the arturia interface) and the organ sound returns to the ideal version. However, this is usually short lived.
I would like a way to keep the ideal sound consistently, without it changing back and forth without my input.
TLDR
Organ instrument is changing sounds mid-session without my input. Would like to keep the sound stable so i can work on the rest of the track…
The B3 Clean Jazz uses percussion. The percussion will not sound, if notes a re played legato/ are overlapping. This is original Hammond percussion behavior.
If you own the full B3 V2 application, then you can change that behavior in it’s settings. If you only have Analog Lab, then you can only use play style and be sure your fingers is lifted before you activate a new note, if you wish percussion to sound on the notes.
The behavior is used by players to make note variations.
This behavior is not the issue. What you have described is the instrument functioning correctly. My issue is that the instrument is periodically not functioning correctly. The percussion does not occur and the instrument sounds dull. This can happen at random points over the course of the song.
One moment it functions correctly in playback, the next it does not.
HI @Lakeside and welcome to The Sound Explorers Forum!
@Funtmaster suggestion would be a MASSIVE help in helping you out here. It does sound like there is some kind of Midi message being transmitted from somewhere/thing possibly.
Have you tried recording the Midi and looking through it very closely to see if there are any Midi messages/controller data that’s not expected to be there?
This kind of issue often turns out to be something along these lines.
It took a minute to get it to happen but I’ve recorded a clip here. At the very start the Instrument is playing the wanted sound, then once I place a note in the midi it changes.
You somehow play the black key A note (perhaps another black note - edit reversed color - edit end), when it change. Perhaps it’s when you click with your mouse. It’s hard to see for me. Or it can be a note somewhere else.
The black keys are fixed presets keys. So playing them will change the sound.
Playing the black B note on the upper manual should then restore the sound.
I don’t know the B3. What are you clicking or deselecting in the MIDI? This seems to make the change. I know there is a Percussion setting in the B3. Are you toggling it on and off?
I think @LBH has it right. Those lower MIDI notes in your clip (or you triggering one of those notes by clicking on them in your clip) are activating the lower black keys, which changes the drawbar configuration and thus the tone. You can’t see that in Analog Lab, but if you were using the B-3 V plugin, you would see the drawbars changing position.
From the User Manual:
“The first octave of each keyboard (the notes with their colours reversed) does not actually generate sound but rather acts as a selector for a fixed set of drawbar configurations, like in a real organ. Pressing one of these notes will call up a specific drawbar configuration but will not change any of the other settings on the organ. When you adjust drawbars, these settings will be automatically remembered in the currently selected drawbar configuration while you’re working with the current preset.”
