Whats the crack with the midi latency out of beatstep help?

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#1

Using ableton 11, Ive a facotry 909 drum rack open, the beatstep pro pad are triggering the 909 drums. Im using the drum seq on the beatstep pro.
Im making rhythm, which is fine but within ableton, with monitor either selected to in or auto the recorded midi notes get exactly 12 ms latency each. It dissapeears when monitor is off but then i cant hear what seqs im try to pattern on the beatstep.

i was trying to use monitor in while hearing what im seq into beatstep but the audible delay while playing over recorded synths is doing my brain in as its lagging behind the music.

Whats the obvious solution here? so far adjusting midi sync settings for beatstep in ableton prefs is doing nothing, however iseem to and “2” inputs & “2” out puts names for beatstep pro

#2

Hi @Scottf ,

How do you know you get 12 ms latency? It’s not a huge delay.
What’s your soundcard settings? Buffer and Sample Rate.

I’m not a Ableton user.

#3

12 ms is alot! ?? a bass drum with 12 ms delay is way off the 4/4 grid!!

So, if i use monitor “in” or “auto” ableton and record the midi notes from beat step.
I can see t hem off the grid. TO measure it I create an audio track, I have this audio tracks input as the midi track with the midi drum notes. i record it.
Then I turn off snap to grid in ableton menu. I highlight the “gap” or delay the now recorded audio shows of say a bassdrum off the 4/4 grid. I highlight, from start of grid or w here the beat actually starts, ie the delay and automatically in very bottom windown ablwton tells you how much in ms the selected gap is in this case the delay, which it states as 12 ms

#4

sample rate 44 buffer size 64

#5

agian this delay is actually from the monitor options for a midi track by ableton, in off position which I always use for synth work, synths fed directly out to speakers in interface, there is zero latency off beatstep but in off you cant get hear drums tiggering via beatstep patterns only after recording as audio

#6

Hi again @Scottf ,

As you say, then this is about Ableton Live.
I suggest you do a web search and look in Ableton Live manual and ask in Ableton forum.
Ableton Live must have ways to reduce and/ or compensate for Latency. I would look for that.
In my DAW i can set a compensate for recording. Then recording notes get compensated.
Since Ableton Live is a Live DAW, then i can imagine it has was to sync sources to align within the amount of latency that will exist.

The setting 64 samples buffer and Sample Rate 44100 Hz in it self only add 1,45 ms in one direction. Midi should only add around 0.5 - 1 ms. Then your soundcard add latency for USB buffer and audio conversion. How much depend on your soundcard. The rest is added by Ableton Live and other software you use. That’s the Variables you have that perhaps can be improved either by soundcard settings or a soundcard that have faster USB buffer and converters.