Ribbon and Morphée as CC (or combination of CCs)

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#1

Dears,

as it is, it is not possible to midi record the use of both the morphee and the ribbon. This is a real tough miss, as one is required to record the audio instead of the midi if the intention is to make use of the expressiveness of those controllers.
Is there any reason for not exposing both the morphée and the ribbon as a midi CC (or potentially a combination of CCs for the morphée) and thus make them available for use in a DAW with powerful midi capabilities, or other hardware controllers?

There are so many interesting possibilities using those control elements…
Thanks, Marcus

Hello! And MIDI Implementation Chart for Polybrute 12?
#2

EDIT: It seems this was added in Firmware 2.0:

  • Ribbon controller is now able to send and receive CC message 9
  • Morphée controller X/Y/Z axes are now able to send CC messages 114, 115 and 89

Is it not working?

#3

I think I figured it out. If you have Polybrute Connect running and connected to your Polybrute (even on another track), it swallows everything up, so your DAW won’t see the MIDI CC messages.

I opened a new Project in Ableton and just used the Polybrute as a MIDI controller, and all the MIDI CCs created Envelopes as expected.

EDIT: Unfortunately, even though it has recorded the MIDI CCs from my performance, when I play the MIDI back to the Polybrute, it doesn’t seem to do anything with the Morphee and Ribbon CC data.

EDIT 2: Looks like the Polybrute not responding to MIDI CCs for its controls was reported in 2021 and 2022 in the old forum, and still does not work properly.

#5

Yes, after removing Connect and restarting the DAW, MIDI CC for Ribbon and Morphée are coming in and can be recorded, but, as you said, playing back does not have any effect.

I will then open another thread and ask this one to be closed.
Thanks.

#6

Hi @giitr

I’ll leave this up and alter the title as other people often find this kind of thread useful in their journey to fully understanding their own equipment. :sunglasses:

#7

Hi there.

Upping this topic : what is the point of recording CC if polybrute doen’t use them when playing back ?

Is there a diagnosis about this ?

#8

It feels like something that should be fixable with a firmware update, but no news from Arturia about it.

#9

This doesn’t seem to work on the Plolybrute 12. I’m still just getting 1/6 in ableton live, event after a reboot and not using the connect plugin

#10

I’m running under a iConnectivity MioXL. Therefore I can’t have Polybrute Connect working.
But, on the MioXL I can see too midi connections for the Polybrute :

  • With the first one, I’ve got the exact same issue as you
  • With the second one, the Midi CC89 (in my case) is sent.

However… the second midi connection seems to be dedicated for the Polybrute Connect, even if it doesn’t recognize it in my configuration. So, I had a lot of problems using it (some kind of midi loops, freezing with some patches, ARP not working…).

I think that the Polybrute is meant to be driven with Polybrute Connect, and not directly with midi.