Plenty of presets of libraries for Collection V not working

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#1

“This preset cannot be loaded in Astrolab because its sound engine is not compatible”. This is the message I receive when I try to use JMJ, Vangelis, Kraftwerk, … libraries…

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#2

if there is a warning sign on the preset line, it can not be transferred for cpu reason i would say. More, some presets cannot be transferred because V collection X instruments are not yet astrolab compatible and astrolab should be updated for this when ready.

#3

I think you tried to load what they call “legacy sounds”.
Some sounds are designed for older instrument versions.
For example, “albedo lead” (Vangelis tribute soundbank) only works with the CS-80 V3, not the CS-80 V4.

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#4

@rcmusic, it’s not for CPU reason.
Analog Lab presets that cannot be transferred to AstroLab are presets that are not from instruments of V-Collection 9 (or are Mellotron V presets):

  • Presets from new intstruments in V-Collection X, such as CP70V (those should be added in future AstroLab updates)
  • Presets from “legacy” versions of instruments that were redone and replaced by newer versions. (for intance, AstroLab can load presets from Prophet 5V and Prophet VSV, but not from Prophet V2 nor Prophet V3)
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#5

I am hoping to update those tribute banks for Arturia sometime in the next months, so they can be compatible with Astrolab.

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#6

Hi @PaulSchilling ,

Nice to have you here in the new forum. Hope you are well.

That’s indeed a great message.

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#7

Hi @Sean_W I’m a bit surprised that @neubauer isn’t able to load the JMJ bank, for example. It consists of 2600 V, Modular V and Solina V patches that were created in 2017, but I can load those individual 3 patch sets into the current 2600 (v3), Modular (v3) and Solina (v2) from V-Collection X. So why wouldn’t Astrolab be able to load them?

I don’t have one yet so I’m not able to test loading into Astrolab.

#8

@PaulSchilling, @neubauer, All the presets (ARP2600V3, Modular V3 and Solina V2) from the JMJ soundbank load fine in AstroLab. No problem here.

The Kraft Tribute soundbank contains several presets for Prophet V3 that can’t be loaded, but the Modular V3 presets work in AstroLab.
(there is another Kraftwerk-inspired soundbank in the Arturia Sound Store, “AutoBahn”, that also has presets from Prophet V3 that can’t load in AstroLab, but everything else is ok)

The Vangelis Tribute and Vangelis Tribute II soundbanks have a lot of presets that are not compatible with the current version (Piano V1/2, Stage 73V1, Prophet V3, Jup-8V3, CS80V3 and Mellotron), but the Vangelis Tribute 3 soundbank is mostly compatible, except for one Mellotron preset.

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#9

Thanks for the detailed answer Sean! That all makes sense.

I will get to work on recreating the presets on the new instrument versions so that they are compatible with Astrolab.

I recently tried CS-80v4 and and it is truly stunning. Worth the price of Astrolab alone in my opinion.

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#10

@PaulSchilling

I don’t know how much you know about the hardware CS-80.
But Arturias CS-80 V4 Touch Response section now work by sending a pulse signal like the original hardware. In generel the V4 really recreate the originals functionality. But then it also add functionality in the Advanced section. So for example Velocity can now be applied like in the original but also in the sense we mostly understand it today by using the options in the advanced section.

I was a bit surprised the originals touch response velocity work like this, but both the original manual and as i see it, then this article CS-80 - TWS board (Not safe web site) confirms it work by sending a speciel pulse signal that decays out. I don’t understand why videos of original hardware CS-80s dont mention this behavior at all. It’s a quite unique way to add some velocity functionality.

Also the V4 version Touch Response section add much less effect - just like the original - than the V3 version.

The Global sound controls has also been changed to work more subtle like the original.
In generel i think Arturias CS-80 V4 is the most accurate emulation yet out there of the functionality.

The V4 versions envelope behaviors can be changed in the right panel.

This might be important and useful informations to you.

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#11

Hey @PaulSchilling — A bit off this topic but since you’re here, has there ever been any interest/discussion of a sound bank for The Who — specifically Baba O’Riley, Won’t Get Fooled Again and Who Are You (among a few others)?