Hello, I took advantage of an interesting price for the DRUMS mix.
To be honest, for now all my music productions are on hold, but I’m keeping it on the back burner for later.
Are you also making the purchase?
What do you think?
And what will its place be in your productions and the settings you prefer?
This will guide me on its use.
Thank you in advance.
Amitié Musicale.
I tried it out on a few Apple Loops in Logic and was very impressed by the result, not just on drum loops but bass and even acoustic guitar.
Dont be limited creatively by the name.
Bonjour (bonsoir?) Pascal,
every time I listen to tracks on soundcloud, I hear your theme “Sommes-nous seuls”, an insistent theme waiting for an answer.
À moins d’un changement complet de style, je ne pense pas que ce soit pour vous, Pascal.
I use Addictive Drums which has it’s own effects though not as extreme.
I tried it on the Drumbrute. It is quite easy to use and the result can be quite dramatic or subtle depending on the results you’re seeking.
I haven’t used it extensively.
It is actually a very capable multiband compressor suited to all kinds of instruments. I downloaded a demo but probably will not bother with a purchase because I can achieve the results I want without spending €100 for it.
There’s a special offer for those who have the fx collection (29$ US).
But as you says you have everything in the fx collection: opamp, coldfire, reverbs, compressors, eqs. It’s more handy for those who don’t want to stack up effects.
Hello, @francoise , @Funtmaster , @Jon_Vincent
Thank you @francoise for your message about a new impetus for a series of compositions.
Yes I know but I got it into my head to work on this keyboard side that I still have trouble mastering.
In addition I am learning much more on the harmonic level than I was able to do as a guitarist.
I note down everything that is listenable, I am familiarizing myself with Artist from Cubase.
I am finally defining my musical color and what is really available to me today and returning for a time to my musical passion before progressive rock, without forgetting film supports.
Many are those who were only band musicians before embarking on this great adventure of film music.
It doesn’t matter if I don’t have the genius for it, it’s just being in the big family of musicians at my modest level, nothing more.
Thank you Françoise for your friendship, your kindness, your support.
@Funtmaster , thank you for your judicious approach and technique as always.
You reinforce the use which will certainly not be exclusively dedicated to the drum part, certainly to everything that will be orchestral percussion, braams, rises, hits and everything related to FX at my level.
@Jon_Vincent thank you for your analysis, and I understand that €99 for what could be considered a gadget would be an investment I wouldn’t have made, but for €29 and out of solidarity with Arturia, which is offering a nice discount, since it’s thanks to their commercial benevolence that I was able to acquire what I normally would never have been able to.
And I find it quite nice in terms of design, although for the moment I haven’t really thought about its place in my mix.
Thanks anyway for your response.
Well, have a good day everyone, or a good evening.
Here in Brittany, it’s 9:50 in the morning, 
Amitié Musicale.
How are we to judge this plugin based on the 6 short demos, if the non-fx and the fx are not level-adjusted. The fx ones are simply a lot louder than the non-fx ones. Come on guys in this day and age that is a no-go!
You don’t need to judge it based on 6 short demos. Arturia’s software is free to download and try. It times-out after 20 minutes, but prior to that you can test just about anything other than saving custom presets.
Yes I know, but the fact remains that it is not totally honest to present these not-level-balanced demos on the website. This is what you first listen to before deciding whether it is worth the bother to download and try out. An honest comparison would have been nice.
It’s a multiband compressor. Literally part of its selling point is it compresses the dynamic range so audio can be made to sound louder and punchier without clipping. Had Arturia level-matched the before and after, a different bunch of people to those complaining Arturia didn’t level-match would be now saying well I can’t hear any difference, what exactly am I buying.
I guess Arturia can’t please everybody.
(Edited for way better grammar.)
That is a new definition of compression. To the best of my knowledge a compressor reduces the dynamic range, making the loud parts quieter and the quiet parts louder. In the demos everything is louder. And if as you say, when level-matching there is absolutely no difference to be heard that virtually proves that the effect of the non-level matched audio is largely obtained by pushing the level, not by compression.
I think you misunderstand compression. You couldn’t just raise the overall level to get the same effect, because the peaks would saturate and clip. Compression reduces the dynamic range, commonly so that the average volume level can then be increased by make-up gain without the peaks clipping. That’s literally what we witness in the videos.
I get it that you feel it’s only doing something you could achieve by ‘pushing the levels’ but it really is not. Pushing the levels would just cause the peaks to clip.
I know what compression is, there is no misunderstanding. Please note that I said “effect of the non-level matched audio is largely obtained by pushing the level, not by compression” so I acknowledge that there is compression, in order as you say not to clip, but compression is not always used to make things louder, that can be a second step if required, and that second step has been applied here and imo should not have been applied.
Just to chip in…
My personal opinion on it is it’s surprisingly good, even on a completely dry drum bus being fed by either a ‘real’ drum kit or ‘drum machine’.
Of course, it’s possible to achieve the same results using other plugins, PLURAL, but it’s so fast to work with that i’m seriously contemplating making it a part of my ‘usual’ process with drums as i’ve found i need far fewer plugins on individual instruments/channels feeding it.
It’s possibly not for EVERY project i work on, but so far it’s been saving me a fair amount of time in getting where i want to; which is no bad thing!
I think you’ve probably just nailed what the future of plugins looks like. These next-gen plugins will not be measured against how well they emulate a singular piece of hardware in the production chain. They will be geared towards producing ‘an outcome’, which previously took many steps and many pieces of hardware or chained plugins. The UI won’t necessarily be similar to any existing hardware, and the controls will be entirely bespoke, controlling what would be, in a hardware-chain or a chain of multiple plugins, many parameters at once.
We saw it first with all-in-one mastering plugins, which curiously is something Arturia has so far not jumped on board with, but I’ll bet they certainly have one in the pipeline.
OK, demoed it and got it, as I have everything software Arturia the price of 29 Euros was too good to let it go (in spite of the lousy demos :-)). Tested it on several songs and it really is nice, easy also to dial in what you want.
Great stuff! Glad to hear you’re getting on so well with it and it sounds like you’re having similar experiences to my own.
29 Euros IS a bargain for sure!
Regarding the demos, it’s hard to please everyone really, i have to admit the demo i saw wasn’t really my cup of tea, but it gives enough information, if we take our own personal tastes (or lack of in some cases 
) out of the equation and look purely at the results objectively as possible, i think it did a resonable job.
Yeah, I also felt that it would be interested in experimenting with this plugin on other types of audio sources too. Despite what the name suggests.
Yes, I can see this coming too. Where else do you go when you’ve emulated all that can be emulated.
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