I’m wondering if anyone else in here is using Cubase with Arturia? To those who don’t use Cubase, I ask because it has something called the Media Bay which is an advanced preset browser of sorts, where you can rate your presets giving them 1-5 star rating, adding tags, categories, etc. Basically it’s an advanced way of curating your presets, so you can find them later. Unfortunately, per default, it does not communicate with Arturia presets, because I believe it needs something called *.vstpreset file formats. So, no Arturia presets can be found in the Media Bay, although someone in the Cubase forums pointed out, that there is a way of converting all Arturia presets into a format that can be read by the Media Bay. But I’m not sure of the ramifications of that.
And as you know, Arturia has its own preset browser where you can like presets and give them colors and so on.
So, it got me wondering, how do you guys curate your Arturia presets, so you can easily recall them later in your DAW?
Do you just recall them using Analog Lab within your DAW and finding all of your liked presets there?
Or do you have a fancier method that you mind sharing?
Also, could someone kindly explain to me the philosophy behind marking your Arturia presets with different colors? It still confuses me.
I don’t understand what you mean Cubase do better.
Arturias presets and browser system already include the same things you mention for Cubase and more. You even have a comment text field for a preset that also can be searched. You for example have Preset Banks, Types and Styles attributes for presets and you can also sort presets by Designers.
The color tags can be used in the way you want to. That include to use them for a rating system. You have 7 colors and also a Like heart.
Beside that Analog Lab share presets with the individual applications when the presets are stored in the individual applications preset format. This will not be possible with Cubase preset system.
What is it you think you can do with Cubase preset browser, that you can’t do with Arturias? As i see it, then Arturias is better, but it’s for Arturia applications only. Why create new Cubase presets that does’nt have the same possibilities as in Arturias system? Am i missing something?
It sounds to me, like you think, that I am dissing Arturia. I am not. I am asking out of pure curiosity.
Cubase is a DAW, Arturia is not. It’s not even comparable.
I appreciate your explanation in regard to colors, though.
By applications do you mean individual Arturia VSTs like Jun-6?
The only reason I can think of is this. Let’s say you want to find all ARP presets - both Arturia’s and Steinberg’s. Then you could use Cubase’s preset browser to find both. Arturia’s software obviously doesn’t allow for Steinberg’s presets.
No - i don’t think you are dissing Arturia.
And i’m simply telling you about the possibilities Arturias system have.
Me too. And to understand.
You compared preset browser possibilities. That we can.
Yes - Standalones and plugins.
Analog Lab use the same presets that each of the individual instruments use, when they are save in the instruments preset formats.
Presets saved in Analog Lab preset format is not shared.
Yes that’s a difference.
And it’s possible one wan’t to save a Arturia preset as a Cubase preset, if it’s worth it. Do what’s work best for you. I’m just saying Arturia have a powerful preset system. You can use it or not. At the time being a preset system that include all developers own preset formats and browser and other functionalities excist.
In my DAW i can for example save a preset that for example include both any instrument and any effect plugins. That Arturias system can’t either.
For me the major problem with preset systems that require a certain format is you have to create a speciel set of presets for each application for it to work. If it’s a DAW preset system, then perhaps you can’t even use it in another DAW.
I wish developers could agree to create a common system that would’nt require speciel own presets to work.
But as it is, then Arturia have a very powerful preset system for their own instruments.
EDIT: I was thinking that Cubase presets actually save the plugin and it’s setting. And in that case it perhaps actually can use Arturias own system too. But i still see no reason to save every Arturia preset as a Cubase preset. EDIT END
To be perfectly honest, i don’t bother, i generally know which synth/s or other instruments i want to use in a production, i get where you’re coming from though.
Sometimes, if i’m feeling a little more unsure/adventurous, i’ll open ALV and have a look through there as it covers all the Arturia instruments, with a couple of exceptions currently.
I think the closest anyone has come to this so far, and it’s clearly what they’re aiming at long term, is NI’s NKS standard, which, admittedly; i’m still fairly new to. My own experiences with it so far have been VERY positive.
Not shared with the individual instruments as they do not read the Analog Lab preset format. Analog Lab read the preset formats all the individual instruments use.
Only if you in Analog Lab save a preset in a individual instruments preset fromat it is shared with that instrument.
I use Cubase. But to be honest, I don’t spend much time messing about in the media bay. About the only time I go in there at all is if I want to recall one of a handful of a track presets I’ve made.
I’ve got a preset I use for when I want to record some guitar or bass which loads a stereo track for the input from my all-in-one pedal, and a mono track for an input off the DI. I monitor off the all-in-one during record, but I’ll usually use the DI track through amp sims for the mix.
And also anytime I come up with a synth sound I like that uses insert effects and/or is a layer of two or more plugins on separate tracks (i.e. DX7 on one track and Juno on another), I’ll save that as a track preset so I can use it later.
But otherwise I don’t mess with any of the other stuff in media bay because most of what’s in there by default isn’t really that inspiring to me.
Almost none. I think I’ve used the Steinberg chorus and maybe the flanger once or twice.
I use the channel EQ a lot, but I’m not sure that counts as a vst since its built into the channel by default.
Not a fan of the built in compressors or distortion/amp sims. And I’ve never used any of the built in synths on anything.
I meant VST instruments and not effects. I have the entire Absolute 6 collection, plus the stock plugins like Retrologue and Padshop, so I have plenty instrument presets to deal with. And on top of that, dealing with Arturia’s V Collection. So, you see how it might become overwhelming when trying to decide on the workflow.
Yeah that makes sense. I took a good look at Retrologue and Padshop and whatever else was included instrument wise back when I first started working with Cubase. I didn’t hear much of anything that excited me in the presets and I really didn’t connect at all with the way any of the UI’s were done.
And since I already had the V Collection stuff and Komplete, I didn’t see that any of the stock Steinberg stuff was bringing anything to the table that I couldn’t already do better with other things.
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