[Bug]A little graphic bug in Keylab integration for CS-80 V4

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#1

Hello,

I noticed that the 5th knob on the Keylab, in Arturia mode, controls the ring mod if you open the CS-80 V4. But the “virtual knob” that appears on the screen works backwards. Turn the physical knob to the right, and the virtual knob turns to the left (!).

Not a big deal, but we can add this little bug to the whole list.

#2

Hi @creal ,

What virtual knop? The Ring Mod controls on the CS-80 V are sliders.

Please keep in mind, that controls on the CS-80 V acts like on the original. That mean that many sliders work in reverse so the max value is when it’s down/ towards you. If this is what you experience, then that is normal behavior and not a bug.

#3

Hi LBH,

Thanks for your reply.

I put quotes because I meant the animation displayed on the Keylab screen. It’s kind of a virtual knob for me. Sorry if it led to confusion.

I’m okay with the fact that increasing the knob (clockwise) lead to decrease values, and that the corresponding slider on the CS-80 goes up. No problem with that since it’s by design on the original CS-80.

The problem is that, just for one knob (try by yourself), turning the (5th) knob clockwise implies decreasing the “screen” knob (anti-clockwise). It’s really counter-intuitive. And the corresponding knob on the CS-80 goes down instead of going up.

It’s clearly an inconsistency.

What do you think?

#4

It should be like this:
When you turn your controllers encoder clockwise, then the CS-80 Ring Mod slider should go down and the values increase as max values is down.

I don’t know how the virtual knob on the controller screen will act. I guess that depend on if it follows the values of the Slider or the movement or the movement of the hardware encoder.

#5

Thanks for your reply. This helped me find that we have two problems here:

  1. Inconsistency with the default mapping: some knobs increase values when turning clockwise (ring modulator modulation, mix), other decrease values (detune, pan). This default mapping is not perfect (some min/max should be inverted in my opinion), but it’s not so important

  2. The one I’m describing since OP: with the ring modulator modulation (knob 5 on the Keylab MK3), the knob displayed on the screen works with an opposite direction (turns counterclockwise when turning the knob 5 clockwise). Maybe if you try on a Keylab MK3, you will clearly see what I’m talking about

By the way, the 9th fader acts weirdly. You move it up, but the screen shows that it moves down, as the actual CS-80. I understand the idea but it could be inverted in my opinion.

#6

Bug report sent to Arturia’s team.