AudioFuse 16Rig Firmware Update with midi host control

[tmoore]

I was mostly interested in software control from the connected computer, and I’m happy that this is working now. Here are the things I had to do to set it up.

As @niks.arturia mentioned above, being on a Mac I had to go into the Audio MIDI Setup app, choose “Show MIDI Studio”, find the AF16Rig MIDI device, and delete it (hit delete on the keyboard) with the 16Rig turned off (it won’t delete if it’s currently connected).

Note that the old version has 4 MIDI ports.

Then, turn the unit back on and it will be added back to the end of the device list, with 5 MIDI ports:

(The first time I turned it on, the device didn’t pick up the correct name for some reason. I turned it off, deleted it again, and turned it on again. It worked on the second try.)

Now the new Mixer Control MIDI port shows up at the end of the Ableton Live MIDI settings. I turned on “Track”.

Then selected that in the MIDI To menu of a MIDI track:

As mentioned earlier in the thread, you also need to set the 16Rig Mixer Control setting to USB Device.

I tested it out using the CC Control device in Live 12. I used the (honestly kind of haphazard) Factory MIDI CC mappings in the 16Rig and assigned the CC Control dials to the aux bus levels and track levels.

After clicking the Send button to reset the mixer settings, everything works great. I did notice that there is some value scaling happening, and the position of the aux dials in the AFCC Main Mix page doesn’t exactly match up with the position of the corresponding dials in Live. They do cover the entire range. It’s not a problem, just something to be aware of.

I put it in a rack to make the knobs more accessible and hide the unused controls. It also works well with my Push 3 in controller mode, and I would assume also earlier Push versions.

Here’s the device file. Feel free to use it or tweak it as needed.

AF16Rig Mixer Control.adg

I hope this is helpful to someone!

[bwilliamsmusic]

It doesn’t seem there’s a way to control the overall volume of the unit without touching the knob or opening the software. I was hoping to do this by hooking something up to the MIDI port on the front… sort of like a remote control.

[tmoore]

The MIDI mappings only cover the main mixer in the 16Rig. If you set the monitor outputs to the main mix, you can control the output level of the main mix using MIDI. That’s probably the best way to get control of the overall output level.

It would be nice if everything that can be controlled via AFCC could also be MIDI mapped, but that’s not the case right now. As welcome as the new improvements are, there’s still a long way to go.

[niks.arturia]

Hi!

I’m happy to read that the problems you were facing are gradually being resolved
Do not hesitate to reach us if you have further questions!

Bests,

[ancaja123]

Interesting, no matter how many times I turn the 16Rig on and off, it keeps showing up in my midi studio with the wrong name. I am also getting a lot of crashes in the AFCC.

[ancaja123]

I’m not sure I understand also, if I don’t have a midi controller can I still control the AFCC mixer with my DAW? I’m using Ableton with those same settings, but I can’t figure out how to send CC messages from a fader in the daw to a track in the AFCC when trying to midi learn.

[tmoore]

@ancaja123

Interesting, no matter how many times I turn the 16Rig on and off, it keeps showing up in my midi studio with the wrong name.

It remembers the (wrong) name if you don’t delete it from the MIDI Studio. So turn off the 16Rig, delete the item from MIDI Studio, then turn the 16Rig back on so it reappears in the list. Hopefully that works for you. It did for me on the second try.

@ancaja123

I am also getting a lot of crashes in the AFCC.

Me too

@ancaja123

I’m not sure I understand also, if I don’t have a midi controller can I still control the AFCC mixer with my DAW?

Yes, by sending MIDI CC messages to the AF16Rig Mixer Control MIDI device.

@ancaja123

I’m using Ableton with those same settings, but I can’t figure out how to send CC messages from a fader in the daw to a track in the AFCC when trying to midi learn.

Have you tried the rack I shared above? If you’re trying to control it with Ableton’s mixer faders, that won’t work because it doesn’t send out any CC messages for those. You can use the CC Control device if you have Live 12, or there are various Max for Live devices that can send CC if you have an older version with Max for Live.

I’m going to look at making a Max for Live device that can watch for changes to the Ableton mixer and use that to send MIDI to the 16Rig. I’ll keep the forum posted, but I haven’t had much spare time lately, so it might not be that soon.

[ancaja123]

Yea the AFCC is slowing down to the point of crashing and then it usually comes back. So the Ableton rack you made sends CC messages to AFCC I assume? If so that’s amazing and I really want to get this working.
I tried the rack and got an error. I’m admittedly not too familiar with Ableton racks though I understand Max4Live instruments. It’s awesome you are working on that.

[tmoore]

@ancaja123

So the Ableton rack you made sends CC messages to AFCC I assume?

It sends CC messages directly to the 16Rig. AFCC doesn’t need to be running for the MIDI control to work, it’s only used for configuration.

@ancaja123

I tried the rack and got an error.

What’s the error. Could you share a screen shot?

[ancaja123]

this is what I see when I try and load it. I feel stupid but I still don’t fully understand how this works. If the track faders in Ableton aren’t sending CC data, are you controlling gain with this device? Is the purpose for the 16 Rig to reflect the track and aux levels within the DAW?

[ancaja123]

Also I want to confirm in this thread, I still can’t get it to reappear with the correct titles in Audio MIDI Setup