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Barriott

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Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« on: July 18, 2018, 11:33:39 am »
Sentient people of the internet,

Just wondering if you know of any sample players that i could link to my beatstep pro.  I've been thinking of getting 3 Akai MPX 8's but i think it wouldn't work as they dont have CV / Pitch / gate in's and the beatstep pro has only 1 midi out. 

Ideally what i want is a box with 3 loads of CV / Pitch / gate ins, one or two audio outs and away of putting in my samples.  Any suggestions?

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 11:10:01 am »
To be honest - I never heard of a sampler/sample plaver with CV in. They all have to be controlled via MIDI (unless they have a built-in keyboard, of course).

So use the MIDI out instead of the CV/Gate outs. There are three possible ways if you want to connect more than one sampler or, in general, instrument:

a) Use samplers/instruments that provide MIDI Thru so you can daisy chain them.
b) Use a MIDI Thru box such as the Kenton MIDI Thru or similar. They belong in every synth household anyway, at least if you use MIDI at all ;).
c) If you don't use more than two units, a simple splitter will work. It may not be the most professional solution, but it's cheap and does its job (I sequence my Volca Bass and Volca Beats this way, and that works absolutely flawlessly).

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2018, 01:54:46 pm »
If you are ready to dive in the eurorack world,  these might fit !

https://1010music.com/product/bitbox-eurorack-module-with-touchscreen
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-wave

Otherwise the suggestions below are good and might be cheaper :)

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 04:23:27 am »
To be honest - I never heard of a sampler/sample plaver with CV in. They all have to be controlled via MIDI (unless they have a built-in keyboard, of course).

So use the MIDI out instead of the CV/Gate outs. There are three possible ways if you want to connect more than one sampler or, in general, instrument:

a) Use samplers/instruments that provide MIDI Thru so you can daisy chain them.
b) Use a MIDI Thru box such as the Kenton MIDI Thru or similar. They belong in every synth household anyway, at least if you use MIDI at all ;).
c) If you don't use more than two units, a simple splitter will work. It may not be the most professional solution, but it's cheap and does its job (I sequence my Volca Bass and Volca Beats this way, and that works absolutely flawlessly).

Beat me to it.  I've had the below sitting in a reply box for two days now, lol.

Samplers generally don't do analogue controls.  CV/GATE/PITCH are pre-MIDI analogue signals and cost a small fortune compared to digital processors which run the MPX 8's.  I'm currently working towards a voltage controlled sampler but am need to do it via the modular world and it's going to cost at least 700aud for the sampling brain alone (1200 if I get the one my heart is set on) and then there are the CV and gate sources to feed the brain.

MIDI is what has run samplers pretty much exclusively since 1983.  It works really well and early samplers even used MIDI to transfer samples from sysex fileplayers. 

Now my question is, why 3 MPX8's?  From what I gather they would make a great little drum bank, but you'd do better to buy one MPX16 and then say a Microgranny 2.5 and another little cheapy-synthy-thingy like a Roland SE-02 or a Korg Volca of some flavour.  Don't get me wrong, I've considered an MPX8/16 myself as a drum bank and still suggest to those who want a quick sample playback machine one of those would do brilliantly, but they are what you pay for.  The 16 has a larger sample memory and the performance pattern maker which is why I suggest that over the 8.

If you are ready to dive in the eurorack world,  these might fit !

https://1010music.com/product/bitbox-eurorack-module-with-touchscreen
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/qu-bit-electronix-wave

Otherwise the suggestions below are good and might be cheaper :)

Umm, modular isn't really an alternative here.  First you are paying twice as much for something that is not a complete unit, as such.  The sampler module is only one component of the whole; at least an envelope and a VCA are two more modules that are needed before the sampler is actually a sampler.  Without them you will have a loud and untamed sample with all the hiss and other operating noise coming out of the unit when there are no samples being played.  A simple little Akai sample playback machine has all that covered for under $200.
Currently running https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1311723 / www.modulargrid.net, sequencing with KSP and recording with a Zoom (no DAW involved, for better or worse ;) )

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2018, 08:05:20 pm »
Korg Sample?
Connect it to the Sync out.

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2018, 07:02:06 pm »
I have been searching for something similar, the only cheap option I found are the Akai MPX series, but be aware, there is a LOT of people with problems using this machines (missing notes, syncing issues and other horrible histories) . I will not buy one of those.

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2018, 12:05:45 pm »
Get Dave Rossum Assimil8or - you'll be in sample heaven with your bsp

http://www.rossum-electro.com/products/assimil8or/

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2018, 12:18:56 pm »
Get Dave Rossum Assimil8or - you'll be in sample heaven with your bsp

http://www.rossum-electro.com/products/assimil8or/

LOL umm, yeah. $1000 us dollars later and you still need envelope generators, vca's, lfo's, at least one filter, and the list continues.  That sampler is my dream right now, but I'm still a good few hundred au dollars away from it.  And in preparing for it I've spent about $1000aud on utility modules, not to mention the filters, lpg's I've bought, as well as a Disting to sate my desires for samples.  Then there are all the cables and rails and side panels....

But yeah, an Assimil8or would rule if you already have a modular synth set up.
Currently running https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1311723 / www.modulargrid.net, sequencing with KSP and recording with a Zoom (no DAW involved, for better or worse ;) )

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2018, 02:03:05 pm »
Get Dave Rossum Assimil8or - you'll be in sample heaven with your bsp

http://www.rossum-electro.com/products/assimil8or/

LOL umm, yeah. $1000 us dollars later and you still need envelope generators, vca's, lfo's, at least one filter, and the list continues.  That sampler is my dream right now, but I'm still a good few hundred au dollars away from it.  And in preparing for it I've spent about $1000aud on utility modules, not to mention the filters, lpg's I've bought, as well as a Disting to sate my desires for samples.  Then there are all the cables and rails and side panels....

But yeah, an Assimil8or would rule if you already have a modular synth set up.

Yes, I would think about getting Assimil8or as 2000$-3000$ investment at the end, you can't stop with Eurorack, but wait as soon as you reading this, you probably already have one of the best sequencers for it: BSP 8 gate channels fits perfectly - so it will be a good start. Depending on needs the system could be very compact and with Arturia Rackbrute case things starting to look nice and pretty...

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2018, 10:57:38 am »
What about Bastl Microgranny? It is monophonic and pretty lo-fi, but so cool. I use it for all sorts of stuff in my setup.

https://www.bastl-instruments.com/instruments/microgranny/

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Re: Suggested sample players linked to Beatstep Pro
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2018, 03:12:00 am »
Yup got one of them and am looking at getting a Grandpa.  Microgranny 2 goes well with the BSP.
Currently running https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1311723 / www.modulargrid.net, sequencing with KSP and recording with a Zoom (no DAW involved, for better or worse ;) )

 

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