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Ikthog

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Blinking octave lights
« on: June 10, 2018, 07:56:33 am »
I haven't seen this discussed much on this forum, so either it doesn't bother many other people, or just nobody is talking about it... the blinking octave lights. (I originally posted in an old thread about the MiniLab, apologies for cross-posting...)

Perhaps I'm in the minority who find this to be an issue, but the blinking octave lights are a terrible design decision. Lights blinking/pulsing based on tempo, LFO speed, etc. are a logical design decision, as they tell you something meaningful. A light/button blinking constantly to indicate a static state is a pretty basic UI design failure. The designers could have indicated octave in many ways, such as LED brightness, color (I have a Korg MIDI controller from -2005- that does this), or even a momentary blink – or no indication at all, given that playing a note will tell you what octave you're in. I'm simply baffled that the chosen solution was an always-blinking LED button telling me "Yep, I'm still in this octave! I just wanted to get your attention to let you know nothing has changed!"

It's a shame, as it's a nice little controller, and quite compact. Seeing this constantly blinking LED in the corner of my eye is just a dealbreaker. I had planned to return it, but unfortunately I haven't seen another controller as small as the MiniLab with the overall build quality/aesthetics this has. I did find a solution to the problem, however (not sure if this link will work): http://www.pixelfuse.com/stuff/minilab_fix.jpeg

I don't know if anyone from Arturia reads this forum, but seriously guys, fix this.

Astrin

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2018, 05:26:16 am »
I agree it is a terrible design idea.

Someone said it blinks faster as the octaves go up. How about this: you listen to what you’re playing rather than watching how fast it blinks!

Seriously Arturia, you can turn this off in a firmware update. Give us the option to disable the flashing, like every other keyboard controller on the planet.

mccrabney

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 02:19:13 pm »
+1.

krshdv

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 11:21:32 am »
I agree, the blinking octave lights are a terrible design decision and very annoying. Just bought the MiniLab MKII. It was the first thing I noticed about it right after I turned it on and have been looking for solutions since. Shame, as it ruins the experience with what seems otherwise like a good design. It requires a software fix badly.

Matt Arturia

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 09:09:24 am »
Hi,

I have transmitted your request to the development team. I don't know what will be done here but this is now logged to our database.

Regards,

Matthieu

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2018, 04:23:56 am »
I've owned the Minilab MKII for five minutes and it's the first thing I tried shutting off.  If this doesn't get rectified I'm tossing it into the bin!  I hope there's a firmware update for this soon. 

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 04:56:40 pm »
I got the Minilab MKII for Christmas and I want to join the critick!
The flashing octave LED makes me crazy!
I have already updated to the latest firmware in the hope there would be an option added.
Question to the technicians:
Is it worth it to unscrew the Minilab to see if I can simply disconnect the LED? (I know that I will lose the guarantee).

TRACKSY

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 11:50:44 am »
On such tiny keyboard this was an oversight on Arturia's part. It's hugely distracting and the first thing that jumped out (and continues to).

Hopefully it'll be addressed in a firmware revision but for now it'll just be annoying.

Lovely little thing, too. Seems decently built. Although it does have a chassis tone that isn't great.

MajorFubar

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 01:20:22 pm »
It wasn't an oversight though, it was a deliberate design decision. Some of the responses here are comical. I really can't take people seriously who are so melodramatic that they threaten to throw away a $100 controller just because the LEDs flash. Simplest solution is to just put some sticky tape over the buttons. Problem sorted.
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LilHossBigJake

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2019, 03:21:56 pm »
Wish my controller would have flashed when the transpose button was inadvertently pressed in front of a crowd  :P

Worst solo ever. I'll keep it.

Barry

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2019, 07:42:00 pm »
That's a very valid point.
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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2019, 01:37:24 am »
I'm not sure which is more annoying: The blinking lights on the octave buttons, which is distracting, or the ridiculous amount of "security" fields I have to fill out just to post on this forum(why do I have to answer trivia questions to make a post?).

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2019, 01:59:53 am »
I'm not sure which is more annoying: The blinking lights on the octave buttons, which is distracting, or the ridiculous amount of "security" fields I have to fill out just to post on this forum(why do I have to answer trivia questions to make a post?).

honestly, i came here with the purpose of posting something in favor about the mkII, but after losing 10 minutes of my life with that thing i will just leave the forum forever.
Absolutely ridiculous...

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2019, 07:29:59 pm »
I agree: the blinking lights are quite annoying. I've seen other controllers solve this problem by having different colors for each offset.

The problem with a single LED is that it has to convey about 5 different states: no offset, 1 octave offset, 2 octaves offset, and 3 octaves offset, and even 4 octaves offset. Ideally, you'd have 4 tiny LED below the button to show how far you're off from the center.

What I would find very helpful: make the lights blink only if you're at least 2 octaves away from the center. 90% of the time, I'm only within +1 or -1 octave from the center. In that case, simply light up the LED, without blinking.

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Re: Blinking octave lights
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2019, 01:34:59 pm »
It is difficult for Arturia to make everybody happy. Maybe Arturia should provide stickers that can be applied on top of the octave buttons.  ;)

 

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