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Author Topic: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together  (Read 1115 times)

konjurer

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Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« on: June 21, 2020, 10:51:52 pm »
16 patterns in a chain is not nearly enough to create a song.  Here's why... a verse or chorus is typically 8 bars.  The MOST SIMPLE song would have a structure like

1 Intro
2 verse
3 chorus
4 verse
5 chorus
6 bridge
7 verse
8 chorus
9 outro

Ok, so no problem so far!  But songs do not have 4 bar verses and choruses.  If you construct a song with 16-4 bar patterns then you have a 2 minute song.  So you have to repeat patterns.  If you could specify a the number of times you want the pattern to repeat, then 16 steps in a Chain would probably be enough.  Or if Chains were longer than 16 steps.

To me, the Feature Request that would make the most sense would be to Chain Scenes.  Is there a way to Chain Scenes with the current firmware that I'm not aware of?








zacsut

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2020, 06:43:20 pm »
+1

johndoe

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 07:48:14 pm »
+1

I can barely make the intro with 4.

TheAnt2002

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2020, 11:19:38 pm »
I agree chaining scenes would be great and allow for much more complex and complete song arrangements

AdrianLazerMan

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2020, 04:04:54 pm »
+1

Andrew Henderson

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2020, 07:32:08 pm »
I definitely have to stress, that this is a must.  16 is such a paltry number, even super old drum machines allowed for arrangements far higher than this, for 16 step sequencers.  It seems to me that 16 is such an easy number, so it is stuck with. 

16 steps, 16 chains, 16 projects, etc.

Surely we can do MUCH better than this.  I don't play live, so would love to be able to have entire tracks built, saved and recalled from the KSP, in tandem with Cubase and be in all my glory.

konjurer

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2020, 05:47:15 am »
Was this addressed in the 1.3 upgrade?  Hard to believe that more people are not running into this constraint. 

SwamiRob

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2020, 02:06:58 pm »
Surely the chain can be extended using the same method that patterns are? Subsequent parts would just appear in the -32 -48 -64? Surely there should be some way of applying a Scene to a step of the chain too?

joshuarule

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2020, 06:01:25 pm »
+1

DingLuKai

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 09:33:07 pm »
+1

dancloud

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2021, 02:23:57 pm »
+1

Edit: Just a +1 seems too weak... Allowing for longer chains (like 64 steps ) would only require a few dozen extra bytes of memory for each project. For me it would make a world of difference. I bought the Keystep Pro early on and am still quite frustrated with this device. While most of the initial bugs have been fixed by now, I keep running into limitations that make me put this thing back on the shelf again and again. Still not quite a "Pro" device in my view. A lot of potential, though... I keep my fingers crossed.
« Last Edit: January 01, 2021, 04:07:50 pm by dancloud »

Andrew Henderson

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2021, 02:01:09 pm »
+1

Edit: Just a +1 seems too weak... Allowing for longer chains (like 64 steps ) would only require a few dozen extra bytes of memory for each project. For me it would make a world of difference. I bought the Keystep Pro early on and am still quite frustrated with this device. While most of the initial bugs have been fixed by now, I keep running into limitations that make me put this thing back on the shelf again and again. Still not quite a "Pro" device in my view. A lot of potential, though... I keep my fingers crossed.

I hear you on this.  I do feel this 2.0 firmware, is really going to make/break what users get from this device.  Lots left outstanding, on features and workflow enhancements.

Lonzo5

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2021, 07:58:05 am »
+1

slevin

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2021, 09:35:40 am »
+1

BigFknRobots

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Re: Longer Chains needed or a way to Chain Scenes together
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2021, 01:41:08 pm »
is there a way to endlessly loop sequences in a chain?

 

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