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Title: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 20, 2017, 06:31:20 pm
Hi

I am using prophet v2 as VST in bigwig using the acid rain patch. It plays the chords fine but there is a low bass sustain that dent tail off and rumbles away. I would like the low end of the patch but really don't want the rumble ?

thanks

Grayster.
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 20, 2017, 07:30:21 pm
Hi

I am using prophet v2 as VST in bigwig using the acid rain patch. It plays the chords fine but there is a low bass sustain that dent tail off and rumbles away. I would like the low end of the patch but really don't want the rumble ?

thanks

Grayster.
Hi and welcome to Arturia forums.

Please provide Bank name, Subbank name and full Preset name.

Without knowing the sound i can imagine it can be about a Release time or something that cann be EQ'ed out. But without hearing the sound i can't tell for certain.
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 20, 2017, 07:51:09 pm
Found it at -
Fact-ProVS
Bank_5
59-ACIDRAIN.

If that's it, then i guess you mean the long release time. That you can change in MODULATION Envelopes section. In FILTER and/ or AMPLIFIER view.

But perhaps you mean something else when you say "rumble"?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 20, 2017, 10:22:38 pm
trying to post a screen shot but not sure how :

patch is provs bank 5 59 acid rain ?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 20, 2017, 10:23:23 pm
using it as VST in Bitwig
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 20, 2017, 10:30:20 pm
yes thats the patch - i have tried playing around in modulation and envelop section but no joy - is there any way to post video on here ?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 20, 2017, 10:50:47 pm
Have you tried to set the release  - point 4 - lower in the Amplifier envelope and perhaps also in the Filter envelope at the same time?

You can try to explain what you mean by "rumble". The only thing i would call rumble come from the release time.

Also you can try to attach a video. You can attach some files. Look below the writting field when you write a reply.
But you can also post a link for a video or soundfile you publish somewhere else.
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 20, 2017, 11:25:31 pm
ok just made this to show whats happening :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP3gbGBsNaU&feature=youtu.be

cheers

G
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 21, 2017, 12:08:52 am
Is it hanging notes? Sound like that to me.
It don't happen here. I'm not using Bitwig. But hanging notes can happen with many applications caused by different things.
Do you have the same issue with other Prophet V2 presets?
Do you have the issue using Prophet V2 in standalone mode?
Do you have the latest update of your discontinuet Prophet V2? What version do you use?
What keyboard controller do you use?
Do have any automation going on in Bitwig?
Sounds like you have edited the sound somehow. How?

Cheers
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 10:37:47 am
works fine in standalone and also via machine 2 - i have also tried recording chords into machine and its fine - there is not processing in bitwig all very odd ?

version 2.7.0
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 10:39:22 am
other patches are fine playing and recording in bitwig?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 11:52:28 am
actually happens with a few patches been trying some random ones  to see
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 21, 2017, 05:19:17 pm
Yes version 2.7.0.76 is the latest version of Prophet V2.

Are you using computer keyboard?
Are you using Hold pedal?

Are you using any plug-ins like Reverb or others?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 05:20:55 pm
hi

just been back and tried it in standalone with machine its doing the same thing - no effects and no reverb ?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 05:21:46 pm
no sustain peddle and the notes were drawn in - i have also checked in ableton live 9 and the same thing occurs so i am thinking its the VST ?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 21, 2017, 05:35:13 pm
I can't rule out it's the VST in your Bitwig. But i don't have the same issue.
The problem if it is a Prophet V2 issue is Arturia has discontinuet Prophet V2 and no longer develope on the product and unfortunately no longer bugfix either.
Perhaps you can try and download a trial for Prophet V3 to see if that is doing the same thing.

It can be about notes that overlap in a way that make the notes hang. Or perhaps it can be dual notes, Have you checked that?

Do you have the same issue if you start another Bitwig project?

Is Prophet V2 the only plug-in where you have this issue using the same track?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 05:41:53 pm
just tried v3 and it does the same thing - even if i play one chord then leave space it still does the same ?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 21, 2017, 05:46:40 pm
If you only have this issue with Prophet, then i don't know what is going on. It sound like it's easy for you to get this behavior.

May i ask what your computer specs are? CPU and RAM especially. And if it's alaptop or desktop.  What OS do you use?

Are your equiptment updated?
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 21, 2017, 07:19:52 pm
iMac - 2.7ghz intel core i5
12 gb ram
sierra 10.12.6

update when updates are available
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: LBH on October 21, 2017, 08:22:14 pm
To me this is rather strange. I have been giving the inputs i can think of right now. But i assume you have tested it all.

You can try to contact Arturis support. But as said, then Prophet V2 is discontinuet, and i don't think Arturia give support on a trial for V3.
However - i would like to believe, that Arturia is interested in knowing if there are issues with products.
In case Arturia don't read this thread, then perhaps you can point to it, if you contact support.

V3 should run on Sierra. I think Sierra 10.13 have been released, but if that make any difference i don't know. Arturia should know if there have been issues like this with Sierra. But perhaps not with Bitwig, so it's good info if you provide what version of Bitwig you use.
I'm on Windows.

Unless you overload your computer system, then i don't think you should have issues. The specs is more than required. But if you use many things, then it can add up and overload a single CPU core for example.

I hope you find a solution.

Perhaps others know about a solution.
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on October 22, 2017, 03:40:45 pm
have emailed tech support - thanks for all you help - i ll let you know if they fins a solution :)
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: policenauts on November 22, 2017, 08:15:50 pm
Hey there, did you ever receive an answer on this?  I just got a new computer and am getting the same issue with running the VST in Ableton - Prophet v2 as well.  Driving me insane.
Title: Re: Prophet V2 low rumbling after swords using acid rain patch
Post by: grayster100 on November 24, 2017, 11:12:17 am
No they are still looking into it - it also happens in live 9 but it doesn't seem to be as bad I have had to use volume automation to cut it off but its not ideal by any means !!! let me know how you get on !