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Title: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on February 15, 2017, 06:04:21 pm
While waiting for my MatrixBrute to be delivered here is my wish list for changes and features - sooner rather than later. It's mostly small and simple stuff that could easily make its way into the firmware, and some that require more work:

Some specific suggetions for the sequencer:

Done! :)
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: F5D on February 17, 2017, 11:21:02 pm
Yes, definitely the aftertouch curves and naming presets directly from the synth panel, not just from the midi control software. Currently, the aftertouch sensitivity can be adjusted in the midi control software, but the curve not. I would like the curve to be less of a step function. Now, it is difficult to modulate the AT, as it goes beyond the barrier so quickly. Otherwise, the feel of the keyboard is just great, also velocity. Naming of presets from the synth should be considered as part of default functions of a synth. I consider the lack of that feature a choice from Arturia to release the synth to the market and quickly update the firmware to make it possible.

+The direct sysex capability, not only limited to using Arturia's own Midi control center.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on February 18, 2017, 12:45:37 am
A GS posting reminded me of this one, which I forgot in the list above:
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: SoundRider on March 13, 2017, 12:01:13 pm
A GS posting reminded me of this one, which I forgot in the list above:
  • Ability to dump and receive patches as MIDI sysex data straight from and to the synth - very important for total recall in conjunction with DAWs

Absolutely ... this and an entire bank or all banks.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: lensflare on March 13, 2017, 12:18:51 pm
... and do not forget "START SEQUENCE POINT" feature to amke the sequencer the definitive tool!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on March 14, 2017, 05:13:39 pm
I'm already running out of programmable matrix destinations while making a flute patch with a 'perfect' chiff and other subtle articulation. Having 4 is good, but the whole thing just invites one to go further. So I added :

If I'm not mistaken, I see LEDs on the PCB for the assign-buttons (not used currently). If that's indeed the case, then they could light up to indicate the currently select  page of 4 mod destinations.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 03, 2017, 07:27:10 am
I really miss glide for the upper part in Duo Split mode. Never really use it for the lower part since that's usually bass, so I've added:
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: usw on April 05, 2017, 12:14:28 pm
Mine still has the original firmware and the glide can definitely be activated for the upper part in duophonic mode, did the recent update break that ?

I'd really like the matrixbrute to remember its last state when turned on (current preset, including buffered edits, panel on/off switch etc), and a way to switch between the original and the edited sound would also be welcome.

I already asked about adding midi tuning standard support without getting any answer, being stuck in 12-tet feels like a big step back for me, despite the amazing sound palette.

I agree about the matrix, 4 user programmable destinations isn't much :( Another somehow related regret : duophonic and paraphonic modes aren't exploitable thru cv/gate (it would have solved both my free intonation and polyphonic needs, and as it is even monophonic sounds relying on the 3 vcos can't be exploited : vco3 frequency control is missing)…

ps : there's a annoying bug in the kb/seq source, it ignores the legato setting option (always interpreted as "on").
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 05, 2017, 02:17:32 pm
There's no glide in the upper part in Duo Split mode on FW 1.1.0.73 here - just tried again for verification. Please let's know if the upper part glide goes missing when you upgrade yours. If so it should be an easily reversible bugette.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 05, 2017, 05:18:56 pm
When pressing a Mod track button and tweaking Mod Amount in play mode, the Mod step on/off state remains on, and it will even be switched immediately on if held when in the off state and the tweaking the Mod Amount. When in Record mode, the state will always toggle when you tweak Mod Amount while holding the button. The latter seems like a bug, or at least a very annoying "feature". I'd wish the mod track buttons remain in the on state when the Mod Amount is tweaked in all cases. I therefore add:
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DLopez on April 14, 2017, 08:27:18 am
I came here just to ask about less dead zone on the pitch wheel, but I see you've already done it.

Small back and forth wiggles are impossible to do.

+1 please :)

Also... I thought the aftertouch curve was a bit steep. I set the sensitivity to 10% in the MIDI Control Center, which did seem to help.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: VAU on April 14, 2017, 12:47:50 pm
wouldn't a fade in/out for the aftertouch be possible to make it really smooth?
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 14, 2017, 03:04:14 pm
It would be smoothly engaged, but not smoothly modulated by varying pressure. We can already do a fade by applying an envelope to the aftertouch signal in the matrix for up to  4 destinations (and yes, when they are spent we need more modulation slots...).
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: BobTheDog on April 14, 2017, 09:08:32 pm
I must admit I have been wondering what the other 90% of aftertouch sensitivity might be for.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: Numans1 on April 15, 2017, 11:11:30 pm
The ability to modulate vco3 from the matrix,
Sequencer to record and transpose from any key,
You can loose the feel having to wright in c !
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 16, 2017, 12:15:57 am
The ability to modulate vco3 from the matrix,
Sequencer to record and transpose from any key,
You can loose the feel having to wright in c !
You can modulate VCO 3 by using one of the four assignable matrix columns.

Good point with the sequencer transposition - would've been nice to have.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on July 10, 2017, 02:27:38 am
Regarding two things: the feature suggestion of more assignable matrix columns and the now "much" requested envelope retriggering/looping:

We have the current suggestions for more columns suggesting 4 pages selected with the 4 assign buttons (details elsewhere). I was just thinking that one possible solution for envelope retriggering (and any other "invisible" mod targets) is to have a (fixed) set of columns representing trigger inputs for the envelopes so that we get a place to assign envelope triggers. For the looping bit, if you assign an envelope to an envelope retrigger column, the retrigging could happen when the release phase ends which would give us both normal looping and sequenced triggering.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on October 14, 2017, 01:25:40 am
For Duo Split mode: ability to swap the filters around, so that the lower part (with sequencer) can use the Steiner Parker and the upper part can use the Ladder.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: 11ish on October 14, 2017, 07:53:19 am
quote:
- More programmable matrix destinations. E.g. pressing the 4 buttons without assigning anything could switch between 4 pages for a total of 16 destinations.

+1 on this!!! For me that would be the most important improvement (of an already very, very impressive synth, admittedly)

I would also love to see:

- The ability to set different lengths for the individual tracks in the sequencer (e.g. the mod track), not only same length for all 4 tracks

Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on January 16, 2018, 11:33:47 pm
With the MB2S out of the bag, and seeing its sequencer, some enhancements to the MxB sequencer wouldn't go amiss. Some suggestions:

- Display the notes on the patch number display, when playing or selecting a step and when holding a Step button and turning the Mod Amount knob to edit the note value for the step

- Hold Accent button while turning the Mod Amount knob to edit the velocity value for the step

- Hold Slide button while turning the Mod Amount knob to edit the gate length for the step, the Gate knob would then be a relative adjustment

- Most definitely fix the MOD button + Mod Amount knob bug (no longer working until you pres Record + Play)

All of this should be available in the Play mode.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on January 16, 2018, 11:46:56 pm
The MatrixBrute needs a Sysex protocol so we can have editors and other tools. The protocol should support:

Read and write for:
- High res values for every parameter including the mod matrix
- Values for every sequencer step and row

Remote control for:
- All non-voice parameter buttons and operations, such as those in the sequencer section, save/load etc.

Dump back and forth for:
- Full patch and sequence data
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: joeman on January 17, 2018, 04:17:37 am
+ 1 on SysEx/complete MIDI implementation!
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: fede bts on January 29, 2018, 06:35:22 pm
I have already written my proposals elsewhere but - for simplicity sake - I'll add them here as well:

* Loopable Envelopes
* Buttons as Mod Destination in the matrix
* A generical CV input, not tied to the fixed destinations
* Envelope triggers as Mod Destinations (say, one wants to trigger Env2 using LFO1)

Give us at least three of these things and I think MatrixBrute can seriously win the prize for the best synth ever! 8)
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: PrShadocko on April 14, 2018, 02:11:53 pm
Yes, it is very frustrating to have all these possible modulations and have to limit them to four  :(

Among all, some of the fixed ones are not thoses I would have choosen. For example, I need only to modulate the Ultrasaw and the Metalizer parameters from time to time, while I need always to access the resonance and the LFO rates.
The result is that I often miss some parameters to modulate, but there is 4 that are unused...

I whish I could simply change some of the default destinations with other ones, even before adding more banks.
I am ready to put stickers on the panel !
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: tp on April 15, 2018, 07:03:59 pm
This is a nice idea-- rather than having additional pages of assignable destinations (or in addition to that), there could be a way to overwrite the default destinations. Not sure how (or if) this could be implemented, but it would be great. I feel the same way about the desirability of modulating say, supersaw versus resonance, LFO speed, or Osc 3 frequency.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: aWc on April 15, 2018, 08:54:50 pm
This is a nice idea-- rather than having additional pages of assignable destinations (or in addition to that), there could be a way to overwrite the default destinations. Not sure how (or if) this could be implemented, but it would be great. I feel the same way about the desirability of modulating say, supersaw versus resonance, LFO speed, or Osc 3 frequency.
Agreed. I  think adding menu diving and multiple pages would take away from the "the knob per function", immediate feel of the MB interface. Some tough choices have to be made to improve functionality...but not generate a bloated, overly complicated UI. So overriding the default mod destinations gets my vote. BTW Osc 3 frequency CAN be selected as a mod destination (even though it's limited because it's a coarse pitch knob. I would love to be able to modulate PW on Osc 3...but let's face it, it's never going to happen.)
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on April 15, 2018, 09:04:37 pm
This is a nice idea-- rather than having additional pages of assignable destinations (or in addition to that), there could be a way to overwrite the default destinations. Not sure how (or if) this could be implemented, but it would be great. I feel the same way about the desirability of modulating say, supersaw versus resonance, LFO speed, or Osc 3 frequency.
Agreed. I  think adding menu diving and multiple pages would take away from the "the knob per function", immediate feel of the MB interface. Some tough choices have to be made to improve functionality...but not generate a bloated, overly complicated UI. So overriding the default mod destinations gets my vote. ...

No menu diving is needed with the suggested implementation of pressing the 4 assign-buttons without assigning anything to switch between 4 pages. There are even LEDs in those buttons that aren't used, and those could indicate which of 4 pages is selected.

There is nothing available in the UI to easily support re-programming of the fixed columns. It would also be messy with no indication of whether a a column has been reprogrammed or what the destination is.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: aWc on April 18, 2018, 06:48:37 pm


No menu diving is needed with the suggested implementation of pressing the 4 assign-buttons without assigning anything to switch between 4 pages. There are even LEDs in those buttons that aren't used, and those could indicate which of 4 pages is selected.

There is noting available in the UI to easily support re-programming of the fixed columns. It would also be messy with no indication of whether a a column has been reprogrammed or what the destination is.
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OK you convinced me. I'have had my MB for two weeks now, playing around the clock and programming the hell out of it. My wife can hear me across the house gigling and bursting into joyful expletives...BUT it has become quite clear now: most of the time, I ran out of programmable mod destinations. The one absolutely essential update the MB needs is indeed more user-defined mod destinations. And your proposed way of doing it is the right one. I hope that there is enough memory left in the machine to accomplish that. Hell, just one extra page of 4 destinations would be an enormous improvement...but let's hope for 4. Arturia: this update can take the MB where no other (non-modular) synth has gone before, DO IT!!!
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: everasia on May 01, 2018, 05:54:10 pm
Let me add:
Expression pedals send to MIDI out as CC4/CC3 (as it should be)
Preset viewer: since I unfortunately think we'll never see an actual editor, it'd nice to have a preset viewer at least, so I can load a patch, see how it is done and map it knob by knob if I really want to. This is great for learning by reverse engineering.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: aWc on May 10, 2018, 09:26:01 pm
I have officially submitted this feature request (as suggested by Dr Justice):

Add more User-defined Mod destinations such that 4 pages of 4 destinations can be accessed by pushing buttons 13, 14, 15 and 16 (which apparently possess built-in LEDs) to indicate which one is active.

If, like me, you dream about this feature, send a similar request to Arturia,s support! Or send your other requests for new features and bug fixes. I am sure this is more effective than whining and accusing the company of this and that.
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: DrJustice on May 11, 2018, 01:20:01 am
I have officially submitted this feature request (as suggested by Dr Justice):

Add more User-defined Mod destinations such that 4 pages of 4 destinations can be accessed by pushing buttons 13, 14, 15 and 16 (which apparently possess built-in LEDs) to indicate which one is active.

If, like me, you dream about this feature, send a similar request to Arturia,s support! Or send your other requests for new features and bug fixes. I am sure this is more effective than whining and accusing the company of this and that.

Those 4 LEDs... Note that Arturia's own product page picture has the column 15 button lit up - gotta use them for something!  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/dABbshn.png)
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: aWc on May 11, 2018, 03:35:19 am
 :o Amazing!
Title: Preset naming on the synth
Post by: DrJustice on May 20, 2018, 05:28:15 pm
Superseded by the thread Patch name, system param end extended patch param editing (https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=92837.0)
Title: Re: Changes and features wishlist
Post by: endreola on June 06, 2018, 05:46:02 am
There's no glide in the upper part in Duo Split mode on FW 1.1.0.73 here - just tried again for verification. Please let's know if the upper part glide goes missing when you upgrade yours. If so it should be an easily reversible bugette.

Yup, upper glide doesn't work for me after upgrading to 1.1.0.73.  But in all fairness upgrading was the first thing I did after getting this beast, so I can't confirm that it worked with prior version.