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Hardware Instruments => MatrixBrute => MatrixBrute - Feature requests => Topic started by: VAU on February 08, 2017, 11:34:13 pm
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i edited this post to collect all my requests and to have a better overview.
to read all the following posts is not necessary ;)
- still on top of my "want" list:more program patches
if it was me, then we / the Matrixbrute would have 256 x 256 patches, so we could organize freely into genres,
prepare live sets, always have blank space when stumbling over new ideas etc etc
at least 1000 patches is "normal" on complex synths nowadays. a USB stick would also have been fine... unfortunately only client port...
( if more banks are not possible - and let's hope they are, as it#s most crucial -
then at least the MCC should work like this:
3 patch fields would make it possible to sort patches.
ONE for the Matrixbrute
ONE for stored 256 patches
AND ANOTHER ONE in the MCC where i can drag and drop (=sort) patches
also, in PANEL MODE, it should always be possible to double click a patch in the MCC, it gets send to the buffer (= PANEL MODE)
so we can preview it )
- possibility to define patch sources and destinations on the back of the MB
(for example LFO WAVE FORM instead of AMOUNT)
- GATE LENGTH per step makes the sequencer groovy
here at 0.50 sec is an example of how gate time per step can sound like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16RZMQXh0Y
it could be done by HOLD NOTE + TURN GATE KNOB (PANEL + GATE KNOB could be used for Gate Edit reset )
- LFO SLEW & SYMMETRY a double use of the LFO knobs should be an easy thing to do (?)
SLEW = soften the LFO curves ( sounds often more musical)
and SYMMETRY means you can shift the curves gradually from symmetric positive and negative values to only positive or negative values
(example: cutoff only gets opened from but not more closed from start value)
- with the AUDIO MOD knobs, allow modulation from ZERO in the matrix. Now only possible, if start value is NOT zero.
together with unipolar LFOs (see request for LFO SLEW & SYMMETRY) this would make a lot of sense
- very helpful wold be attack / release setting (in the MCC) for the aftertouch,
for softer fade in/out insead of sudden on/off
- track rotation = shifting tracks stepwise left / right
you come up with a nice pattern, but then you want to start it at another step ? for this you need this feature
best case would be to to be able to shift NOTE, ARP and MOD tracks independently and if they could have different length.
(an "offset" for the different MOD track destinations might be over the top, but would allow even more rhythmical variation)
- independent clock dividers / resolutions for ARP and SEQ and maybe more than just 1/4, 1/8, 1/16
- more MOD sources ( would mean: more pages)
so you could for example sequence the OSCs independently. very good feature for interesting patterns
- scales/non standart tunings (this synth screams for exotic scales)
- fine tuning per step
- arp resolution per step
- more than 4 bars & page per bar
it would be easy to hold SEQ and a step button to access 16x 4 bars at least
if it was one "page" per bar, then functions like on the Roland 185/ intellijel metropolis sequencer
could be done, like step repeat (1-8x), skip etc on the lower button rows or ratcheting
- and exotic one: possibility to "draw"modulation curves (for the lfos, envs, etc) into the 256 step buttons
(per page/bar) funny enough possible on an older Allen & Heath mixer for its analog filters
and quite a cool feature it is !
- use 256 buttons for display of values
- possibility to loop certain section of track / arp
hardware mods i would love to see:
- use external in in the AUDIO MOD
- have a highpass for the FX signal
added:
- possibility to modify all ENV stages independentely
(lin/log, duration 2x, 5x, 10x, etc)
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If LFO 1&2 are digital, it would be fantastic to introduce a slew parameter. Could be done by ARROW plus PHASE/DELAY for example.
The slew parameter is to even out sharp edges of curves. It turns a square more and more into a sine for example.
VERY musical and useful!
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A mod (switch) to "replace" VCO3 with EXTERNAL on AUDIO MOD KNOB #2
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If LFO 1&2 are digital, it would be fantastic to introduce a slew parameter. Could be done by ARROW plus PHASE/DELAY for example.
The slew parameter is to even out sharp edges of curves. It turns a square more and more into a sine for example.
VERY musical and useful!
The other knob could be the for UNIPOLARITY .
To the left you could dial in positive polarity,
To the right negative.
This would mean, the more you turn to left,
the more only the positive amount ABOVE zero is chosen
And vice versa.
By this you could have a modulation only in one direction.
Or if wanted also rather in one than the other.
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A mod (switch) to "replace" VCO3 with EXTERNAL on AUDIO MOD KNOB #2
Edit:
To replace VCO2 in AUDIO MOD KNOB#1 with External 1 would also be great.
Then we could hear the with OSC1 modulated External signal...
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...what do those of you who got an MB already think bout these requests?
Of the sequencer features, I suppose using the Glide and Accent rows in conjunction with the Mod Amount (like the Mod row) could be used to enter two more per step values. The natural and non-confusing thing for that would be glide time and velocity. Gate time per step would be nice too, perhaps using the Step row + Mod Amount.
A mod (switch) to "replace" VCO3 with EXTERNAL on AUDIO MOD KNOB #2
To replace VCO2 in AUDIO MOD KNOB#1 with External 1 would also be great.
Then we could hear the with OSC1 modulated External signal...
I think those are physically impossible with the audio routing being in hardware.
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It woukd be a hardware mod, so Arturia will not do it, but since external audio can be fed in and routed through the filter, it might also be posaible to use it in the AUDIO MOD (?). But ok, there are other synths that can do stuff like that...
But the sequencer update:
If there was one page per bar, you could do a lot,
All of it woukd add a lot of creativity and fun:
"Ratcheting" with up to 8 flams.
ROLAND M185 / INTELLIJEL METROPOLIS style "note repeat"
"SKIP"
Paraphonic /"poly" sequences
Etc
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Ah, yes, DIY hardware mods are indeed possible :) Perhaps not as "feature requests" though...
Now that you mention it, ratcheting would be very cool. I'd have put this on the Step row + Mod Amount then, instead of my previous suggestion of gate length.
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matrix seq/arp mode:
- different resolutions for arp and seq / more clock dividers
- shift left / right for seq and arp (with or without mods/lfos etc) that would be great to have
often you come up with a great sequence and wish it would start from another point
- more arp patterns that can also be routed to other parameters
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here at 0.50 sec is an example of how gate time per step can sound like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16RZMQXh0Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V16RZMQXh0Y)
wouldn't it be great ?
it could be done by HOLD NOTE + TURN GATE KNOB (PANEL + GATE KNOB could be used for Gate Edit reset )
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Absolutely ... +1
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- i know it would not be possible without a mod, but a highpass for the FX signal would be very useful, just as you do sometimes/often when mixing,
when you take out low freqs from the reverb signal for example.
- possiblity to sequence the oscialltors individually. i know this "problem" from my XENOPHONE. you could make amazing sequences if this was possible.
. on the AUIO MOD, modulation is only possible when NOT set to "zero". when set to ZERO, modulation in the matrix is not possible. i know this is due to different functions
on the left and right side of "zero", but with unipolar LFOs (see my request above for LFO SLEW and LFO SYMMETRY) it would be possible to be able to modulate from ZEREO in one direction.
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very helpful wold be attack / release setting (in the MCC) for the aftertouch,
so it better can fade in and out
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collected, sorted and updated,
now everything is in post #1
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- use the 256 buttons to display parameter values or even patch names
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ps like done on the Linnstrument ( and this only has 8 rows...)
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after wathing this novation circuit mono station video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UunpB7H9SKs
i hope even more that there is capacities for more matrix pages
independent oscillator sequencing... mhhh....
and did i already mention that it could be nice to use the matrix for all kind of display duties ?
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Hello Arturia, could you please give us a hint if you are working on updates and what they are?
Thank you
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added to list on pge 1
- possibility to modify all ENV stages independentely
(lin/log, duration 2x, 5x, 10x, etc)
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I'm not sure if it is possible, but it would be nice if you could use different waveforms for VCO 3 for its audio output and its LFO output.
Like, using it in saw as an oscillator, but using its sine for its LFO function.
The other oscillators seem to have multiple waveforms simultaneously, so I wasn't sure if this could be possible with a firmware upgrade.
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I'm not sure if it is possible, but it would be nice if you could use different waveforms for VCO 3 for its audio output and its LFO output.
Like, using it in saw as an oscillator, but using its sine for its LFO function.
The other oscillators seem to have multiple waveforms simultaneously, so I wasn't sure if this could be possible with a firmware upgrade.
I think it would be technically possible. As far as I can understand, the LFO portion is generating it's waveform in the digital domain using a frequency divided down from the analogue oscillator. There's a UI issue though, in how it would be controlled and indicated. Anyway, there are lots of thing that MUST be fixed (bugs and important usability issues) before diversifying into things like this.
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It would be nice to have sequencer for right hand in duo-split mode, a possibility to switch sequencing between voices.
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- routing of filters to left and right chanels independently
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at least other companies don't think, my feature request about patch memory is that stupid:
"Store tens of thousands of presets
A Moog One preset is a self-contained blueprint, saving the parameters for all three layers of timbrality, along with each timbre’s sequencer, arpeggiator, and modulation settings. Moog One has the capacity to store and recall tens of thousands of presets that you can easily categorize, edit, notate, and even share via USB drive. Up to 64 presets can be arbitrarily grouped to a Moog One Performance Set, where they are immediately selectable via the front-panel Bank/Preset button configuration — a vital feature for live performances and session work.
Presets can be shared with an unlimited number of Performance Sets, allowing quick access to desired presets for each live gig, studio date, and composing session. Preserving more than just presets, User Spaces save global behaviors, MIDI settings, knob behaviors, port and pedal configurations, and even the LED brightness level of your working environment. This means that a USB thumb drive in your pocket can temporarily make any Moog One in the world your personal instrument."
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MoogOne16--moog-one-16-voice-analog-synthesizer
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- routing of filters to left and right chanels independently
Not possible as it's not supported by the hardware. The signal from the voice is mono before hitting the effects.
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at least other companies don't think, my feature request about patch memory is that stupid:
"Store tens of thousands of presets
A Moog One preset is a self-contained blueprint, saving the parameters for all three layers of timbrality, along with each timbre’s sequencer, arpeggiator, and modulation settings. Moog One has the capacity to store and recall tens of thousands of presets that you can easily categorize, edit, notate, and even share via USB drive. Up to 64 presets can be arbitrarily grouped to a Moog One Performance Set, where they are immediately selectable via the front-panel Bank/Preset button configuration — a vital feature for live performances and session work.
Presets can be shared with an unlimited number of Performance Sets, allowing quick access to desired presets for each live gig, studio date, and composing session. Preserving more than just presets, User Spaces save global behaviors, MIDI settings, knob behaviors, port and pedal configurations, and even the LED brightness level of your working environment. This means that a USB thumb drive in your pocket can temporarily make any Moog One in the world your personal instrument."
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MoogOne16--moog-one-16-voice-analog-synthesizer
The Moog One is entirely different since it relies on external USB storage for this. It has an USB host port where you can connect memory devices.
The MxB doesn't have a USB host port. What it has is a serial FLASH device (25PE80) on the main board, which I assume is what holds the patches (there are no other high capacity memory devices that I can see). This is an 1MB device. An MxB patch could be using up to 2kB (depending on word sizes and packing), so 256 of them would use 0.5MB. That would at best leave room for one more bank of 256 patches. I'd be happy to see that enabled if possible.
In principle I agree that synths should have thousands, or even tens of thousands, of patch locations these days since memory is dirt cheap. I see no technical or economic reasons for a synth to ever run out of patch locations. But alas, synth manufacturers seem to think that's a bad idea. All manufacturers commit this "sin", not only Arturia. In the case of the Moog One, the "problem" is offloaded to external storage and it's still dirt cheap.
Edit: Correction on the Moog One: it turns out that it has 8 GB of memory on board to store tens of thousands of patches or more. Way to go!
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Nice job guys. I applaud your efforts. Now, how about putting them in order of priority? :o
Am just joking with you guys. However, if I was one of the developers, I would want to know which features are of the highest importance and get them coded first, then focus on the next priority items and continue down that path until development cycles and timelines are exhausted.
And from a selfish point of view I'm interested in knowing how other MB'ers want their rigs expanded. As for me, I would like to see Gate speed/width controllable by modulation, support different Gate length per step, ratcheting, plus other stated Sequencer mods would be huge.
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Aside from the requisite bug fixes and on-board access to MIDI functions, my absolute priority remains more user-defined mod matrix destinations. I know I have said it before but I am convinced that this alone would catapult the MatrixBrute into a place where no (non-modular, programmable) synth has gone before!