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Title: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Steve on January 04, 2017, 11:22:13 am
Hello and thank you for reading!

The text file accompanying the v1.1.0.0 firmware update mentions a new feature:
"Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank".

How does this work exactly (i'm fairly new to this):

for example:
Which Program Change selects which pattern?

Do i understand correctly that it is possible to switch patterns/banks from my software midi sequencer?
by sending a program change to select a pattern? in real time?

for bank switching, this is done through sysex, then? what do i send exactly?

thank you very much!

Steve

Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Terrym on January 04, 2017, 12:22:42 pm
Hi , It depends what your using for midi control   but to change pattern its program select 0-15  and bank select is CC0  0-3   you can also program song select which is sysx  F3 00 TO F3 F0 FOR SONG 1-16.


Regards

Terrym
Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Steve on January 04, 2017, 01:34:40 pm
Hello terrym,

thank you very much for replying and providing this info,
iI'll try this out asap :)

* in reply to "song select via sysex" (sorry but i'm new to this):
could you please write down the complete sysex command for "song select"?

* for midi control i use an old midi software sequencer program.
i can send sysex messages with it.
the manual tells me the message i send from the sequencer
should start with F0 and end with F7.

very much appreciated :)
Steve
Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Terrym on January 04, 2017, 11:45:46 pm
Hi Steve . i should have been more clear F3 is a system common message and not sysex . These are very hard to implement in a daw's unlike cc or sysex .

I'm looking at this and may ask the team if it could send song select so at least we can record the midi .if its possible.


Terrym
Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Steve on January 11, 2017, 09:00:06 pm
Thank you very much, Terrym! This helped a lot :)

so:
in order to "select a song", send a "F3" message to the drumbrute,
where F3 is followed by the song number (in hex): for example:
"F3 00" selects song number 1 (as 1 is written as "00" in hex).

(this "system common" type of midi message is actually called "midi song request",
in case someone would want to google it).

Meanwhile i found this "Drumbrute Faq":
it mentions a different method of selecting Bank and Pattern:
(it's under: "Can I change Song / Bank / Pattern from a MIDI message?")
here: https://www.arturia.com/faq/utilization/drumbrute-general-questions

will both methods work?

or am i just confused by all this Midi talk ;)
thanks again to Terrym,
Steve
Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Terrym on January 11, 2017, 11:24:52 pm
Hi steve there both the same its just bank select and pattern change are in cc unlike song change which i still haven't been able to do . but to be honest i haven't tried too much as I'm quit busy testing the next firmware.



Terrym
Title: Re: "Use Program Change to switch patterns, and Bank MSB to switch Bank" (drumbrute)
Post by: Steve on January 17, 2017, 09:58:51 pm
Thank you, Terrym!! :D
most appreciated
Steve