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Software Instruments => V-Collection => Topic started by: craftycurate on November 19, 2016, 01:58:17 am
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Just that ... some great banks of sounds for older versions - can these be converted for use with the latest versions?
Cheers
Richard
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You need
1. to own VC4 applications and have the presets imported in the old applications, then
2. download and use the "VC5 Preset Updater" from Arturias download page here: https://www.arturia.com/support/updates&manuals
More informations in this thread about the preset updater/ converter:
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=87964.0
This should make it possible. Be aware that the converted presets might not sound the same.
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I only have V4 Classics, not the full set - so is there no way to get hold of patches for the other synths then e.g. CS80V?
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I only have V4 Classics, not the full set - so is there no way to get hold of patches for the other synths then e.g. CS80V?
You can only convert presets for the applications you have in VC4 classic, or if you buy other applications from V4.
The presets have to be imported in a application to be updated/ converted i believe.
Is'nt CS-80 in VC-4 Classic?
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I only have V4 Classics, not the full set - so is there no way to get hold of patches for the other synths then e.g. CS80V?
You can only convert presets for the applications you have in VC4 classic, or if you buy other applications from V4.
The presets have to be imported in a application to be updated/ converted i believe.
Is'nt CS-80 in VC-4 Classic? If not, then what to use the presets for?
No CS80 isn't in V4 classics. The Community Presets page gives audio presets, which is why i know what some of them sound like, and would like to import them into V5.
But looks like it's not possible, and the patch converter tool doesn't work with soundbanks, though there is no reason why it can't be converted to do that, but I'm guessing that's not happening anytime soon.
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If there are some kind of copyright or other business reasons to not being able to convert some older presets, then i can understand why, but i think it's a downgrade fro us users. For example The SEM OB leads by Nori Ubukata is'nt availble in VC5. Other presets are missing too.
I can't see any reasons why Arturia don't convert the presets on the presets download site as long there is no copyright or business reasons regarding the designers. Some of the presets are allready converted for VC5. I don't understand why all the old applications presets are not converted. Or at leat those that are of high quality. I suggest Arturia do so.
About other presets in the user forums and on the web thats that's not other places, then you can only hope the designers convert them. But why should designers do so for those free presets?
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Wait. You can't import old V4 presents into V5? I have lots of free patches collected from the internet that I use & need. Is there really no way to use them in the newest version?
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Wait. You can't import old V4 presents into V5? I have lots of free patches collected from the internet that I use & need. Is there really no way to use them in the newest version?
No you can't import VC4 presets into a VC5 application. You need to convert VC4 presets that 's in a VC4 application to make them availble for VC5. You need the VC4 application to convert. If you don't have the VC4 applications then you can't convert old presets for VC5,
Please read post 2 in this thread.
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In other words, I have to have V4 vsts installed + all the presets installed/imported - then use the Arturia Preset Updater - and then import the converted presets into V5 vsts?
Is it even possible have V4 and V5 installed at the same time?
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In other words, I have to have V4 vsts installed + all the presets installed/imported - then use the Arturia Preset Updater - and then import the converted presets into V5 vsts?
You need to have VC4 applications installed. And imported the presets and use the Arturia preset updater/ converter yes.
You don't have to import into VC5 after the conversion.
Is it even possible have V4 and V5 installed at the same time?
Yes. How else do the conversion?
If you read the post in this thread and also read the threads there are links for, then you get all the answers. You don't have to like the answers - (many don't), but they are there.
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Thanks a lot. I'll try to do that. Hope it works.
Have you tried it yourself yet?
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I have not converted myself yet. But others have - and some have posted about it in the forums. I think i will convert some of my presets from time to time. But i also like to keep my applications as clean as possible.
I have both VC5 and VC5 installed. There are some differences in the sounds. Be aware that some converted presets can sound different in VC5.
Also remember that only presets you have saved in a user bank can be converted.
Cheers.
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OK, I'll remember that. Thanks again! :)
I'd stay with V4 but I like the sleek look of the new versions and the resizable GUI. Otherwise I think I wouldn't bother.. though I must say I love those Arturia emulations. They're amazing.
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No, it doesn't work for me.
The Preset Updater scans my presets, they show up, I choose the ones I want to convert, but they don't automatically appear in the newest version of CS80. I haven't tried other VSTs, but I guess the result would be the same.
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Have you read the posts by Germain in this thread i linked for?
More informations in this thread about the preset updater/ converter:
http://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=87964.0
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Yes, I've read that. I follow each step. On my PC, the converted presets just don't appear in V5.
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Then perhaps you should contact Arturia support.
I assume both your VC4 and VC5 are licensed and activated.
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Yes, they are. I'l try again and then contact Arturia if it won't work.
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Just to test i'be tried to convert some presets. I have not tested the presets, but afterwards the presets eas in my VC5 application.
Are the presets you try to conver protected by eLicenser? If so they need to be unlocked first.
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I don't know. How can I check if my presets are protected by Elicenser? And if so, how can I unlock them?
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If the presets is slow to change in the old applications, then they might be eLicenser protected.
However - thinking about it (And checked) then there is'nt a decoder for CS80 V2 in ProgramData like for example for Jupiter 8, so in case your presets are protected, then you may need to hear if Arturia can unlock them for you.
Also please read the text in the converter. There is some informations.
EDIT: Both your VC4 and VC5 are activated thru Arturia Software Center (ASC)?
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Yes, they are activated in ASC. I opened eLicenser and my Arturia applications aren't listed there. Besides, I've just tried to convert Jupiter-8 presets and they don't appear in V5 app either. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that some of my program files and folders are protected by administrator rights? Sometimes while copying files etc. I have to click "run as administrator" or click "continue" (I use Windows 10). Maybe this protects the Arturia preset changes?
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I also use Windows 10.
eLicensed protected presets will not show up in your eLicenser.
I can't tell how you run your PC system, or you have speciel rights for some of your folders etc..
Sometimes when copying certain files you have to click run as administrator even if you are on a administrator account. But it should not be needed to be able to copy presets unless perhaps if there are some speciel coding in there. Perhaps that could be eLicenser or even things thats no good. Off coarse if the presets are in a folder with speciel rights you may have to run as administrator.
Have you tried to save a user preset your self and convert that. Create a preset not using a preset from the web.
Edit. Have you scan your presets from the web for virus and malware?
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Yes, I created 2 new presets in Jupiter-8 and they were detected by the Preset Updater, I converted them but they don't show up in the newest Jup-8, there are still 493 presets. I guess I'll have to contact Arturia :(
I wonder what would happen if I installed V5 applications on the second HD disk.
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Usually it's a good idea to install on the default path if you are not a exsperienced user. If you have not used the default paths to install the applications, then that might be your issue. But i can't tell.
Usually you can change the install paths for the plug-ins as long as you don't move them afterwards.
I presume you have not selected any Banks, or have new banks.
It work here with Jupiter 8 too.
EDIT: BTW. Have you opened in the standalone application before in the plug-in? It should'nt matter for Arturia applications, it don't here, but just in case.
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Nothing seems to work. I don't use standalone versions, but I opened it now and there are no converted presets either. I installed it all to default paths so it's not the issue. Or maybe it is an issue on my computer. I have no ideas anymore.
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No. I have no more ideas. I'm afraid this is a mystery. Never the less Arturia perhasp can help you. Perhaps some kind of uninstall and reinstall of the converter and alike can fix it. Perhaps more. I can imagine it's possible, but i think files in the hidden folder ProgramData might have to be moved as well before a re-install. You can try to re-install the converter.
I think i can only wish you good luck from here.
Just in case. You have to enable Windows for seing hidden files and folders. You can find instrunctions on the web to do this if needed.
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Yes, I think I'll try reinstalling the converter and then the applications with moving the hidden files first. I'll try contacting Arturia. Maybe someone will have a similar problem and post a solution here. Anyway, thank you very much for all your advice! You were very patient and helpful :)