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Software Instruments => ARP2600 V3 => ARP2600 V3 - Technical Issues => Topic started by: jmcecil on May 23, 2016, 01:10:20 am
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The Audio routing for the 2600 V3 doesn't show in the input/output lists in Cubase. How do I use that function in Cubase?
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Hi jmcecil,
I've been unable to route audio into an instrument track in Cubase.
Maybe there's a way but i didn't find it. I know that this routing work great on Live for instance.
They didn't manage to do that too :
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=304062
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In Studio One 3 Professionel i need FX versions to route audio into it. I see there is no FX versions as before. Why not?
Can't use audio input features in VC5.
EDIT: It's the same with Modular and Mini V. No FX versions.
Also i would have exspected especially SEM to get a FX version.
Looks like a downgrade.
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Please fix this
This is how I use the 2600 plugin.
I use the fx version almost exclusively
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The audio input is implemented different in v5, it now uses a side chain. I think this is actually a significant improvement as it allows the synth to receive midi events.
Don't know how this works in cubase but in Logic I create a bus which I than select in the side chain dialog of the plugin. The instrument to be processed is then send to this bus using a pre-fader send.
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I didn't see the side chain option on the plugin interface. Maybe I just overlooked it. Thanks for the possible solution.
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Some DAWs do use sidechain for this. But other DAWs like Studio One don't. FX versions are needed for some DAWs.
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So, the 2600 does not expose the sidechain from the VST3 spec to Cubase.
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Was this ever solved, is there a solution for cubase users that want to route audio into the intrument?
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The audio input is implemented different in v5, it now uses a side chain. I think this is actually a significant improvement as it allows the synth to receive midi events.
Don't know how this works in cubase but in Logic I create a bus which I than select in the side chain dialog of the plugin. The instrument to be processed is then send to this bus using a pre-fader send.
Hey, I tried this solution in Logic as you described but had no luck. Could you be so nice and explain a bit further? I have a midi track with Mini V on it and then select in the side chain menu the bus 5. My midi track I want to be processed is sent to this bus 5 with pre fader send. Do I need to set something different inside the Mini V?
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(At the time being some DAWs can't route audio to plug-in instruments but only to plug-in effects. That's why many still need the effect plug-ins.)
I don't know if logic can do this, and if so - how to.
But if you in Logic can route audio into both plug-in effects and plug-in instruments, then you just have to remember you need to play the instrument to get any sound.
In principle you need:
1. a audiotrack/ audio signal that's is routed into
2. a track with a MIDI instrument (like Mini V3, Modular V3 and Arp 2600 V3). The instrument has to be set up to accept the audio input, and that you can read about in the instrument manuals.
3. Then you also need to play the MIDI instrument while sending audio to it. Or use recorded notes that play the instrument.
I think there is videos on the web about how to set up a vocoder in logic. I suggest you watch them as the principles is the same.
Perhaps this Video can help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2o5uyp1iZE
It look like Logic can send audio into plug-in instruments. But i can't test it as i'm not a Logic user.
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I'm using Studio One v3 Professional.
ARP 2600 V3 will recognize a midi signal from another track, but it won't recognize audio signals.
Example: if I route a midi Beat track from ST1 to ARP 2600. ARP 2600 will use the midi-signal from the Beat Track as if the Beat Track is now the midi-controller. But ARP 2600 won't recognize the audio output of the Beat track no matter how I try to route it into the ARP 2600 pre-amp.
I have created an audio track from the Beat track on a seperate audio track in ST1, but routing that audio signal into ARP 2600 has failed.
So, the pre-amp (using exteranal audio) option on ARP 2600 v3 is NoGo for me.
As a side note, I can use other plug-ins as an FX such as Absynth with no problems.
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Cubase 9 supports sidechaining instruments, but the ARP 2600 vst doesn't seem to be a vst instrument that comes with a side chain. Neither do any of the other V collection instruments.
I wonder if the ARP vst has an audio input at all, maybe it's only a GUI knob without a wire...
Or maybe only the audio unit version has a sidechain, as some users seem to be able to make it work in Logic or Live, or the vst simply forgets to tell the host, that it has an audio input. After all in Cubase 9 none of the V Collection instruments show the sidechain button.
However this is frustrating.
I wonder why I paid money for the upgrade last year, if I have to keep using V4...
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Now over 3 years later..
Is it still not possible to feed AUDIO in to the ARP 2600 V3 (as a VST3i loaded in a DAW) ?
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Is it still not possible to feed AUDIO in to the ARP 2600 V3 (as a VST3i loaded in a DAW) ?
It's not possible.
Arturia apparantly think a DAW should have the possiblity to route audio into a VSTi today. Or that you should use the DAWs that can.
I would like a FX version of the VSTi's that accept audio input, as long at least major DAWs is missing this routing feature. But i actually can't understand, why any DAW can't do this, as it would be simpler to in example set up midi note controlled vocoders, having audio routing to VSTi tracks.
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Well if it was that simple, then why isn't there an "Audio Input" which can be configured in the Audio/midi settings, just like there is an "Audio Output" ?
If there is no input "connector / plug " then it's not possible to feed anything in, wether its from an audio interface channel or from a Send in the DAW.
I think it's just not implemented in the ARP2600 V3 software. :'(
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Well if it was that simple, then why isn't there an "Audio Input" which can be configured in the Audio/midi settings, just like there is an "Audio Output" ?
If there is no input "connector / plug " then it's not possible to feed anything in, wether its from an audio interface channel or from a Send in the DAW.
I think it's just not implemented in the ARP2600 V3 software. :'(
The instrument plugin version of ARP 2600 V3 does have a working audio input. It work in some DAWs/ hosts that can route audio to instrument plugins.
The audio midi & settings in the standalone is for the standalone version only. I don't think it's possible to route audio into the standalone version. But i have'nt tried to set it up using virtual connections.
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hmm the audio signal does indeed get into the plugin, but at the same time the signal also sent straight to the "output" of that track.(so any filtering/processing in the ARP2600 will have little effect). (using Reaper 6.15).
Happens with both the VST2i as the VST3i plugin version.
Wish there was a way to block the input signal from being sent straight to the output.
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(using Reaper 6.15).
There is a couple of threads in the forum on how to make the Audio routing work in Reaper.
This is one: https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=95571.0
It's solved in the threads.
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Thank you @LBH
That thread is exactly describing the problem I experienced too. I will try the solution at the end of the thread, hope it works.
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Thank you @LBH
That thread is exactly describing the problem I experienced too. I will try the solution at the end of the thread, hope it works.
Your welcome. Did it work?
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Yes works a charm.
Basically all it takes is you "send" not to the default channel pair 1/2 of the track where the ARP VSTi plugin is on, but to channels 3/4 and then make sure there is a "patch" from channels 3/4 to the input of the plugin.
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Great. That's good to know djedgoes.
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I just discovered I have this problem too. I've got V Collection 6 and Cubase 10.5, and I just don't see any side chain or other audio send available.
I'm mostly using Modular V3. I'm wondering if this is a bug that might be fixed in a newer version of V Collection, but I can't seem to find out if upgrading V Collection would give me a newer version of Modular V3 - does it? I mean, aside from it now being compatible with the Mac M1 Silicon chips.
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How do you get audio from the sidechain in Logic into the ARP preamp??
I have ARP 2600 as an instrument track. Track 2 is an audio track playing an Apple Loop.
In the ARP 2600 sidechain menu, I have Track 2 selected as the audio source.
But when I play the loop, no audio seems to be getting through into the ARP whatsoever.. On the preamp section, there is no signal lighting up. Makes no difference if I’m playing in midi notes or not.
Has anyone been able to successfully route audio into the ARP preamp in Logic?
The audio input is implemented different in v5, it now uses a side chain. I think this is actually a significant improvement as it allows the synth to receive midi events.
Don't know how this works in cubase but in Logic I create a bus which I than select in the side chain dialog of the plugin. The instrument to be processed is then send to this bus using a pre-fader send.
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How do you get audio from the sidechain in Logic into the ARP preamp??
I have ARP 2600 as an instrument track. Track 2 is an audio track playing an Apple Loop.
In the ARP 2600 sidechain menu, I have Track 2 selected as the audio source.
But when I play the loop, no audio seems to be getting through into the ARP whatsoever.. On the preamp section, there is no signal lighting up. Makes no difference if I’m playing in midi notes or not.
Has anyone been able to successfully route audio into the ARP preamp in Logic?
The audio input is implemented different in v5, it now uses a side chain. I think this is actually a significant improvement as it allows the synth to receive midi events.
Don't know how this works in cubase but in Logic I create a bus which I than select in the side chain dialog of the plugin. The instrument to be processed is then send to this bus using a pre-fader send.
Hi,
Apparantly the quote you have in your post tell about it work in Logic. I don't use Logic or MAC.
And you tell you have routed the audio to ARP 2600 V.
But how have you routed the audio from the preamp in ARP 2600 V? Can you please post a screenshot?
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Hi all,
FWIW I've been struggling w/ the sidechain/2600V3 in Logic for a while .. and I actually DID get it to work a while ago (last year sometime?). I just recently had occasion to try to set it up in MainStage to no avail, but I knew I had it working in Logic, so I went back to that project, and alas, it had stopped working. :\
I've spent the past few days trying different things .. and no luck with the 2600V, but it DOES work with the MiniV3 .. in fact, multiple ways - I can just pick the instrument channel of the source in the side chain drop down, or send that channel to an AUX and pick the AUX, .. it just works.
Also, I can get the 2600V side chain to work in Ableton Live 11, but interestingly it gives you 2 options of where to send your source audio from the sources' channel. In Ableton you send the source audio track to a destination in the output of the channel, in which it gives you 2 options for the 2600V as a sub-menu when you pick that inst. channel .. a stereo audio in, or a side chain audio in, and it works only when selecting the side chain audio in. (obviously you have to set the 2600 instrument to enable the side chain) It DOESN'T work this way for the miniV in Ableton - you just have to pick the miniV channel in audio out of the source .. no sub-menu, so I can only assume that it's implemented differently in the 2600V, and in a way that used to work in Logic, but an update of Logic within the last year broke it.
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I just upgrade to Studio One V5.5 and all of the above is still true. I upgraded for other reasons but I always check this issue as I wish it was available.