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Hardware Sequencers => BeatStep Pro => Beatstep Pro - General Discussions => Topic started by: djd_oz on July 15, 2015, 04:35:44 pm
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1. Being able to copy + paste bars or single notes.
2. For the sequencer, if the step is empty the default note should be set to the root note of the scale.
3. Being able to shuffle/shitft notes left/right.
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When connected through the BSP cv/gate out, my Oberheim SEM was triggering poorly (sounding out of time with the sequence). It turned out the gate voltage was too strong and when I ran the gate cable through a passive attenuator (a potentiometer) and "turned it down" to about 70% it began triggering correctly (sounding in-time). At full strength, the 10-volt BSP gate causes the SEM gate in to overload, triggering instead when the key is released, making any programmed sequence sound out-of-time. It would be nice if the BSP software allowed the maximum gate voltage to be adjusted between 5-10 volts. Otherwise, I am extremely happy with everything about my new Beatstep Pro.
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Whoops! How did I miss this thread?
Nice suggestions!
1. Nudge patterns forward/backward.
Mentioned elsewhere this is great when you accidentally write a sequence on the 2nd or 3rd beat instead of the 1st. You want the sequence to end properly before moving to the next pattern, you can just nudge. But could also have great experimental use.
2. Way to apply gate/swing/microtuning/other parameter to all steps in the current sequence.
Manually editing each note one at a time is time consuming especially if you want a certain value across the board. Some kind of select all steps and double tap relevant knob to apply last setting to all those steps. That would be awesome!
3. Super speedy value changing knobs
Assuming the knobs are press able like buttons, could you press and turn the knob for faster response?
The first one is something I thought of and really would like myself, the others seem like cool suggestions I've read elsewhere. I've yet to play with mine, it looks and feels great, and I'm excited to play with it this weekend.
Anyone else got suggestions?
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+1 on PATTERN NUDGE
It seems like an important feature to have, nudging patterns to choose what's step 1.
I've already written parts where I wish bar 3 was bar 1, for example.
This is a feature I felt was missing once I had played with the BSP for an hour or so.
GATE DIVIDE à la Numerology
to do ratchetting type sequences
COPY/PASTE bars in a sequence
Is a "reverse" SAVE MODE possible? I wish any change made would just write into memory. just duplicate your current project when you want to keep it as a version and keep modifying
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PATTERN CHAINING I didn't realise this wasn't a feature, not end of the world, but really important to me.
LIGHTS DIMMING/MUTING the strobing lights particularly of the drum sequence would absolutely trigger someone with epilepsy.
A VIDEO TUTORIAL ON LEGATO just a video on legato, it sounds like it's complicated!
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+1 on pattern chaining
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+ 1 more on pattern chaining, nudging, gate divide
I did ask the sales team at Arturia before I purchased my BeatStep Pro about 1.2v/oct (Buchla) scaling of CV and they confirmed that will be an option. I still want that to be in this thread. It looks like the rest of the CV should be good (0-10v).
I would like to be able to have unquantized pitch CV as an option. So I could set the pitch of each note manually, make my own non-western scales, etc.
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Pattern chaining seems antithetical to the live nature of the device. I like that it doesn't have traditional "song mode."
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I think the option of chaining is important as it leaves your hands free to do other things, you can still the control when you need to and shake up the sequence when you want, but you can't always be there to change to the next sequence, not if you're doing something particularly tricky elsewhere. It's about adding complexity to your set without having one hand cuffed to a particular device.
Also re nudging, I can see you can do this in the midi control centre, so that's good enough for now. Would be Volvo do it without a computer though.
Also I realised swing CAN be applied across the board or granularly. Be nice if gate etc had same...
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Something i would like (and thought it had?) Is the ability to tie notes in the drum sequencer as you can in the 2 sequencers. (Sure it mentioned you can do this in the manual in the midi control centre section)
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+1 on seq nudge, that is shifting the sequence 16 step forward and back, and step copy-paste
some other ideas/suggestions
1) ability to set pattern length (number bars/last step) individually for the 16 drum tracks, not only on the whole pattern
2) micro shift for melodic sequences as well
3) ability to choose what steps should be affected by swing and random per sequence
4) option to output CV voltage (pitch and velocity) on a step without gate present
5) simple polyphonic sequencing, i.e. ability to choose extra notes triggered per step, as on Octatrack
6) ability to quantize sequence change to bar start or some note value
7) shift+knob or sequencer+knob give us 3 extra aux midi sequences for modwheel, cutoff, or any CC on seq1/2 .... (indicated by blinking)
-) black version! :D
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+1 on ability to quantize sequence change, end of drum pattern would a nice option.
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+1 on shift+encoder or shift+step buttons 2-16 for additional functions. (the shift is there, why not use it for more?)
I'll toss some ideas what they could do.
shift+encoder:
-set default gate/velo/pitch for newly enabled steps depending on active sequencer and knob mode
-change encoder acceleration globally / per active sequencer
-switch between instant sequence change / chaining / queued change (after it's played out)
-nudge active sequence left or right
with shift+step buttons 2-16 could have special function modes assigned, for EXAMPLE like this:
-hold shift and briefly press step button (2?) to enable copy+paste mode:
holding shift briefly pressing single note or 2 notes for a range of steps, release step(s) to copy,
pressing another step to paste from that step forwards and release shift to apply.
-set chaining order for sequences:
hold shift and briefly press step button (3) and then press step buttons in succession to
select order for sequences to be played, release shift to apply.
-hold shift and briefly press step (4) and then enable/disable steps for randomness, and again
release shift to apply.
-enable/disable cv w/o gate for a sequence/sequencer in a similar shift+step button fashion
what else could be done!?
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Older OS support than 10.7 for the software please!
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Pattern chaining seems antithetical to the live nature of the device. I like that it doesn't have traditional "song mode."
You make a valid point, but it would enable you to do pattern longer than 64 steps, which I would love to have with 1/16 and 1/32 patterns especially.
chaining up to 4 patterns for example, is still pretty far from a song mode.
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Possibility to use Gate in for sync.
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IDEA STARTER
It is boring to start any new pattern with all notes, velocities and gates equal for all steps.
To boost my creativity I need a way to randomize a pattern (notes within the current scale), velocities and gates.
Maybe using the sequence "SHIFT" + "Sequencer" + "Step1"
Happy sequencing to all! :)
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Double or triple tap on encoder would return its value to default.
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1 feature req...
pleasepleaspleaseplease send the shift button to Midi out as Note or CC or Sysex what ever, but send it please! :o
or the holding of the (DRUM Button) would be qreat for using in UI Scripting for Ableton and Bitwig..
thx
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Double or triple tap on encoder would return its value to default.
I could see this being triggered accidentally all the time.. Would need to be a more robust method i think
My feature reqs:
'-Keyboard' dims non scale notes
-Tie setting in drum gates (the manual says you can do it with the software, why not the hardware?)
-Cut/paste steps
-nudge sequence left/right
-quick tie works for already active steps (currently annoying workflow)
-quick tie works bi-directional. The tie uses whatever step note you press first, so you can tie to the left
Ps. I want to mention how fantastic the bsp is already, i'd hate the engineers just reading this thread as a list of complaints! Good work already guys :)
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One more: midi clock uses master swing setting
i just noticed that the beatstep outputs a steady midi clock regardless of swing settings.. Really wish it had an option to use the global swing setting to affect midi clock out, so gear with no swing will stay in rhythm with the beatstep. See mutable yarns as a product that does this, it's really useful
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Possibility to record transposing.
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Awesome ideas here!
I'd also like to see support for non western tunings. The user scale could be microtonal and include Japanese, Indian, Persian and many other musical scales.
Also I like the idea of being able to set a first step, or as you can with the volca/monotribe, choose active steps to play and it skips all turned off steps.
I understand that a lot of the things requested may simply be too complex to implement realistically, but I think this thread shows the enthusiasm for the device.
Personally I think it's a great product!
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I returned my BSP to the store, however I'm willing to purchase it again if the GATE/VEL, nudge sequences, and changing pattern when they end are implemented.
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I am struggling to put in patterns with ease (only been monkeying around for a few hours so far) and so I figured I would use the MCC to write some sequences.
You need to DOUBLE-CLICK to add a step to the sequence in MCC. Of all the times when double-click is unnecessary and tedious (esp. on a laptop with a crappy trackpad like mine) this is it.
Please change step toggle to SINGLE-CLICK in MCC. One click to add, one click to remove. It would also help to be able to play the sequence in MCC with any rudimentary samples to hear the pattern you are writing.
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OMG there is no copy/paste in MCC to edit sequences!?
Huge oversight. Obviously they didn't make MCC with the intent of someone trying to edit sequences with it.
I guess I can understand that.
But unfortunately creating and editing sequences on the BSP seems a bit clunky for my workflow.
I rather like the drum sequence recording mode, but the melody sequences cannot be entered that way.
Instead you have to twiddle the knobs to find the right note for each step, or enter it live and then fix it.
It would be nice in melody sequence 1 & 2 in record while not playing to allow the user to
1) select a pad/note
2) select which steps that note is played
3) repeat for all pads in the selected scale
similar to the drum seq record mode.
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SHIFT + CHAN = SELECT MIDI IN (RCV) CHANNEL for each SEQ 1/2/DR/CTRL would be nice too
for routing live recorded patterns via an external keyboard...
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1. The way the beatstep pro deals with saving patterns is kind of counter intuitive: u make some patterns in the flow, it totally forget to save the individual patterns, would be much more intuitive to have all the patterns saved by playing and then saved the project to maintain all patterns and changes.
2. PAttern change next bar, 1/4, 1/2, etc//
3. Drum sequences option on every pad on different midi channel
4. mpc style pad rolls !!! - we cna use the roller/looperfor that + please also workin when no seq. layin!!!
5. The controller mode: Would be nice to have where the patterns are with the sequences to have presets in the controllermode ~~
6.! THE editor: the whole global part is one huge roll down and up: some sub dividation (in the GUI ) would be awesome !
i like the beatstep pro a lot already ! :) :)
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being able to clear velocity and gate without clearing entire pattern
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Option to send continuous MIDI clock and/or Sync out even while stopped. That way there are no show stoppers, no self-promoting clock masters resulting in wild BPM-sync'd FX chaos.
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First and foremost: Have the patterns change at End Of Pattern. Why they don't already is beyond me! Seems like a silly oversight.
Nudge patterns fwd and back.
Randomize patterns based on data already input.
Fix the issue with held notes, missing notes in melody sequencers when using the actual MIDI output. Seems to work fine via USB MIDI.
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My thoughts after playing with it for a bunch of time yesterday, using the CV/Gate & Clock ins & outs:
- Transpose mode latch!!! I don't want to use two hands to transpose a pattern. In fact, right now the "keyboard" mode, when you play notes with the pads while NOT recording, isn't really useful at all (cut off notes/gates), so it would be great to be able to switch just the pads between keyboard and transpose mode
- Auto Save for patterns. Having to save each pattern before switching to another one is really cumbersome when playing and improvising live.
- Different kinds of analog clock signal outputs. Many people report sync problems with various analog gear (myself included). It would be great if one could change the BSP's analog clock output to various different voltages and trigger/gate lengths.
- Option to disable the TIE shortcut. When playing live, I often need to enable/disable several sequencer steps quickly. Right now, if I press two steps at the same time, it creates a held note, overwriting note & gate data, which is very hard to undo quickly.
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Something I would love to see, but have not seen on any sequencer before - the ability to sharpen / flatten the third degree of the scale on the fly as a sequence is playing.
Being able to transpose the sequence, and swap from Major to Minor / vice versa on the fly means much more complex emotional sequencing can be done quickly without having to create a second sequence specifically for the purpose of a minor/major chord change.
Could perhaps use Pad 11 (the unused one next to the Eb in transpose mode) to do it - so if it is pressed when the current scale is Major, it will flatten all the third degrees, and if the current scale is a Minor scale, it will sharpen all the thirds while it is held down?
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- Auto Save for patterns. Having to save each pattern before switching to another one is really cumbersome when playing and improvising live.
This too! I've noticed that when it's being synced to an external clock, if you save a pattern, it glitches out. Which is a no go for live situations.
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I really believe Beatstep Pro could be the ultimate step sequencer if many of the requests would be fulfilled. So I have another feature request.
1 - Create drum fills:
Would be nice if it would be possible to create drum fills the way long notes can be created in Legato mode. For instance if I'd like to fill every 2nd note from 1st I'd just click on 1 and 3... or every 3rd 1 and 4 or if the notes would start from 3rd note and would like to fill every 4th note I'd press 3 and 7.
Fills with every step from 1 to 6 I'd press 1,2 and then 6 or from 6 to 12 I'd press 6,7 and 12.
2 - Clearing only one drum in the whole drum pattern instead of muting it. Could save a lot of time while performing.
3 - Solo any drum note
4 - Clearing all other drum notes except the one which is selected
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Hi everybody.
First a compliment for Arturia's team, because the BSP is already very promising.
A few requests/problems/challenges:
- when the time division of the drum pattern is changed, the clock output changes along. this should really be optional!
- it would be better if you could specify the type of randomness (pitch, velocity, step) you want. Right now you get them all at the same time, which is not always useful. Especially the randomness of steps can be very undesirable
- microtuning support for the user scale would be a huge plus. Just add a nice little cents-option in the Midi control centre
- the setting of the center pitch for sequencer transposition seems to set the 'default' value for pitch in an empty pattern, but i have to give 'fake' values to get the actual values i want. Seems to be a bug?
+1 on autosave function for patterns, nudging the first step of a pattern, stepping through patterns without losing sync and pattern chaining
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1 - Create drum fills:
Would be nice if it would be possible to create drum fills the way long notes can be created in Legato mode.
+1.
Nudge should have high priority too. Please make this the best sequencer ever made, i mean it's almost there already :)
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I think one missed opportunity would of been to steep sequince by choosing step button then either pressing pad to ender in note and or with midi keys . Just saying .
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@DBM try holding the step button then pressing a pad...
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2. Way to apply gate/swing/microtuning/other parameter to all steps in the current sequence.
Manually editing each note one at a time is time consuming especially if you want a certain value across the board. Some kind of select all steps and double tap relevant knob to apply last setting to all those steps.
THIS !
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How about swing, triplets and sequence length separately for drum channels?
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How about swing, triplets and sequence length separately for drum channels?
You can already do all of these with the bsp
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Add a dropdown in MCC for velocity on each sequencer (at least each of the drum sequencer pads) to change MIDI CC for velocity to something else. The main use case for this is some drum machines that receive MIDI do not process velocity but do process level per part. Korg Volca Beats is a good example so look at the MIDI spec for that. The other reason is this would bring the MIDI implementation for this parameter up to par with the CV implementation in it's flexibility; the patch cable effectively being an analog of a CC value and vice versa.
The drum sequencer on this is incredible but it's just a huge tease in the wild world of drum machines because it's so stuck in the age of "channel 10".
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I think one missed opportunity would of been to steep sequince by choosing step button then either pressing pad to ender in note and or with midi keys . Just saying .
@DBM try holding the step button then pressing a pad...
Indeed it does ! Not sure how I missed that as I was rtfm , but I did . Good on ya arturia .
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TRANSPORT COUNT IN OPTION
(just like on LIVE)
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I'm fairly happy with my BSP and can live with a lot of the 'issues' people are asking to be fixed, but if there is one thing I would really, really like, it would be a constant midi clock signal to be sent from the midi out. I have four other sequencers (five if I include the Evolver but it doesn't send notes out) I would like to run on the the midi clock from the BSP but don't want to have to have it running to be able to start any of the others, but nor do I want to use my RY30 or my M1 as the master clock (the Fat Controller is never going to be the master clock, no tempo display for a start). The BSP has the ability to run at tempos other than whole numbers, which is sometimes a lot easier than trying to set non-tempo-synced delays in milliseconds by steps of 5ms to match a tempo, so I would really like to be able to clock my other sequencers to it rather than being stuck in the 80's running in whole number tempos.
Until I got the BSP I was running everything clocked from the RY30, but I'm now sequencing it with the BSP, so the RY30 needs to sit after the BSP, or I run a huge m-f-ing loop incorporating multiple midi splitters.
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please add an optione where you can set if the start/stop signal on the clock out be set to sent just a small trigger instead beeing high while the sequencer is running.
Doesnt work with my doepfer gear the way it is now.
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I want to be able to make a 16 step beat, then make it longer, having the original beat doubled. This is key for live use.
This happens on the spark now.
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I want to be able to make a 16 step beat, then make it longer, having the original beat doubled. This is key for live use.
This happens on the spark now.
7.3 Extend a pattern or sequence on Manual page 46...
SHIFT + >>
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Hmm not sure what you mean, it has 64 steps like the others !
Did you make sure to update your firmware?
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I want to be able to make a 16 step beat, then make it longer, having the original beat doubled. This is key for live use.
This happens on the spark now.
7.3 Extend a pattern or sequence on Manual page 46...
SHIFT + >>
Awesome. Thanks. I've read it a few times but missed this part.
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SHIFT + CHAN = SELECT MIDI IN (RCV) CHANNEL for each SEQ 1/2/DR/CTRL would be nice too
for routing live recorded patterns via an external keyboard...
+1 on this.
...and being able to use the User Channel (or a new specific Passthrough MIDI Channel, set with Shift+CHAN) as an unfiltered MIDI passthrough between USB and MIDI DIN out.
Right now, MIDI sent through SEQ1/SEQ2 is filtered down to mono and mod+pitchbend'less, which is fine and understandable for USB->CV, so a 4th channel could be used as USB->DIN, completing BSP's feature-set regarding USB/DIN/CV interfacing.
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Shift + Rec: Start sequence on the press of the drumpad (so that you always start your pattern on 1) would be very useful
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...and being able to use the User Channel (or a new specific Passthrough MIDI Channel, set with Shift+CHAN) as an unfiltered MIDI passthrough between USB and MIDI DIN out.
Right now, MIDI sent through SEQ1/SEQ2 is filtered down to mono and mod+pitchbend'less, which is fine and understandable for USB->CV, so a 4th channel could be used as USB->DIN, completing BSP's feature-set regarding USB/DIN/CV interfacing.
+1
I made a ticket about having MIDI Thru option for messages and complete channels that are not handled by BSP.
I have MIDI Keyboard connected via MIDI in of BSP, and currently i cannot play instruments other than those channels used by sequencers.
Also modwheel and pitchbend should work.
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I made a ticket about having MIDI Thru option for messages and complete channels that are not handled by BSP.
I guess that would be even smarter, letting all unreserved input MIDI Channels passthrough to MIDI DIN out :)
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The only problem with this is that you could save different midi channels set for different projects so you may have other synths say on a live set that you use on another song/project
terrym
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The only problem with this is that you could save different midi channels set for different projects so you may have other synths say on a live set that you use on another song/project
True. Using unassigned channels may provide a more "random'ish" behavior to this feature forcing the user to be a bit more organized and use it on a very well planned (fixed'ish) setup.
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Add a dropdown in MCC for velocity on each sequencer (at least each of the drum sequencer pads) to change MIDI CC for velocity to something else
I totally agree : being able to record an automation not only on Pitch, velo and gate but also in any CC I want (in my case in the synth parts but also on the drum part). a simple example is to make a "dubstep like" wobble bass where the LFO varies with the notes. but also automate the filter CutOff / reso could be great.
Anyway great job Arturia with this sequencer
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Add a dropdown in MCC for velocity on each sequencer (at least each of the drum sequencer pads) to change MIDI CC for velocity to something else
I totally agree : being able to record an automation not only on Pitch, velo and gate but also in any CC I want (in my case in the synth parts but also on the drum part). a simple example is to make a "dubstep like" wobble bass where the LFO varies with the notes. but also automate the filter CutOff / reso could be great.
Anyway great job Arturia with this sequencer
Have you tried it? Someone in the bsp facebook group claimed the bsp records and outputs ccs per step.
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Then can you post here what he is saying or ask for precisions on the FB group because I dont have access to this group (pending request) and I am probably not the only here who need this information.
Thanks
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I don't really know any more, someone just said that while recording steps, i guess via midi in either usb or 5 pin- that bsp would also record ccs sent to it, so you could achieve something similar to elektron parameter locks. Probably requires a bit of experimentation, if indeed it does record ccs.
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dunno or it has already been mentionned, but it would be great if u can loop per 16 steps (4 editting purposes) when a pattern is > 16 steps
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I don't really know any more, someone just said that while recording steps, i guess via midi in either usb or 5 pin- that bsp would also record ccs sent to it, so you could achieve something similar to elektron parameter locks. Probably requires a bit of experimentation, if indeed it does record ccs.
I've asked on the BSP FB group the guy who claim that to explain how he had this result.
we are not the only one who want this option, look here : https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-music-production/981755-omg-new-pro-beatstep-arturia-7.html
and Denis from Arturia said : An update is technically possible but I can't make any promise.
hopefully we will have this functionnality soon... I just receive mine today so I will try on my own
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Love the BSP. Very good work Arturia. These three improvements would make it perfect for me. In no particular order;
1. Nudge patterns forward/backward on the BSP itself.
2. Pattern chaining. Just for a simple way to make loops longer than 4 bars.
3. Randomise initial sequence. For inspiration!
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dunno or it has already been mentionned, but it would be great if u can loop per 16 steps (4 editting purposes) when a pattern is > 16 steps
Not only for editing purposes, but for performance also. To be able to isolate 16 steps of a 64 step pattern, any 16 not just the first division, would make for far more expressive improvisation.
A way to specify the first and last step would be the way to do it, I guess.
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How about recording into the sequencer with an external midi keyboard?
Or some tutorial on saving set-ups with the software?
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How about recording into the sequencer with an external midi keyboard?
You can already do that.
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Yep, autosave is crucial. I had hoped this sequencer would be a tool for dynamic performance and improvisation, much like the Elektron style of sequencing - however as it is now, where losing your work is the default behavior upon switching patterns, I find it to be extremely rigid and limiting. It doesn't lend to dynamic improvised performance - instead, it lends to pre-prepared sets and pressing the Next button. I might as well use Ableton and my own controller. Auto save is crucial. I hope it's possible and slated for the next update.
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Yep, autosave is crucial. I had hoped this sequencer would be a tool for dynamic performance and improvisation, much like the Elektron style of sequencing - however as it is now, where losing your work is the default behavior upon switching patterns, I find it to be extremely rigid and limiting. It doesn't lend to dynamic improvised performance - instead, it lends to pre-prepared sets and pressing the Next button. I might as well use Ableton and my own controller. Auto save is crucial. I hope it's possible and slated for the next update.
Agreed. I had a really hard time getting used to the idea of not dealing with a state-machine type of sequencer (what you set is what you get).
I understand the usefulness of the current behaviour of BSP but an "auto-save" would be useful too, so I guess a quick way to toggle these, maybe by doing Shift+Save to toggle auto-save on/off would be ideal for both types of uses and users.
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Yep, autosave is crucial.
I agree on this one and will try to push it forward :)
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Yep, autosave is crucial.
I agree on this one and will try to push it forward :)
Good to know! :)
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Hello people from Arturia reading this! Thanks for the BSP, it's a relly nice piece of hardware.
I think there's a great potential in BSP but currently there's a few things I really miss and I hope might come in future firmware updates.
A few things on my wish-list:
* Drum roll for analog outputs please! Why is this only a feature for midi?
* Different length of the of the drum-tracks - I'd love to be able to do polyrythmic stuff!
* Change the behaviour of the Mute-button for drums - currently if I press Mute all the drums go silence, what I'd like to happen is that it would toggle the same mode as Shift+Mute does so I don't have to use two hands in order to Mute single drum sounds.
(BONUS: Even higher clock-outputs on the analog clock - the possibility to output the clock at what ever the internal clock rate is - 96ppq or what ever you might use. The high clock output isn't really a problem as I think most people who use BSP with modulars have clock dividers to fix that)
Thanks.
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On the top of my head (sorry if i missed these suggestions earlier):
- record and maintan a randomized pattern, instead of the constant changing randomization
- pattern chaining (yes me too)
- individual note length (8ths, quarters, triplets etc) per drum part
- being able to customize ALL of the scale presets, instead of having just one slot
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It would be INSANELY GREAT if the Shift button on the BS Pro could send MIDI CC.
Make it happen Arturia.
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It would be INSANELY GREAT if the Shift button on the BS Pro could send MIDI CC.
Make it happen Arturia.
Fortunately Arturia already made it happen as an unpublished feature. Same for BeatStep.
I only hope this extremely useful feature isn't removed in future firmware versions.
("Insanely great" would be to have this same feature on older Arturia controllers, like the Factory32 ;) that desperately needs this feature to allow a a proper expansion of all e faders and knobs with script-aware DAWs)
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great ideas overall
+1 on seq nudge, that is shifting the sequence 16 step forward and back, and step copy-paste
+1 on ability to set pattern length/resolution (number bars/last step) individually for the 16 drum tracks, not only on the whole drum pattern, for polyrhythm, etc
+1000 on ability to quantize sequence change to bar start or some note value or sequence end
some other ideas/suggestions
1) micro timing shift for melodic sequences as well
2) ability to choose what steps should be affected by swing and random per sequence
3) option to output CV voltage (pitch and velocity) on a step without gate present
4) simple polyphonic sequencing, i.e. ability to choose extra notes triggered per step, as on Octatrack (cv still outputs root note only)
5) shift+knobs button or sequencer+knobs give us 3 extra aux midi sequences for modwheel, cutoff, or any CC on seq1/2 .... (indicated by blinking or similar)
6) black version!
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It would be great to have more control over the voltage outputs: set a level for the gates out, and choose a trigger out instead of a gate out. The gate time can be varied but this is not suitable for certain kinds of trigger pulses needed by fi. older Simmons drums or the Nord Drum who need real triggers.
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Hello everyone
I ve been having a lot of fun with the BSP, it brought my hardware synths back to life :)
I would like to suggest a couple of features that i ve been struggling with and that i couldnt find mentioned in the forum.
1- Option to disable the looper completly via midi control center (so many times i hit it by accident while performing and it ruins everything)
2- Option to "retrigger" sequences for sequences longer than 1 bar (to make possible the trigger of any sequence from the beggining when needed)
A smart way to do this in my opinion would be add an option to the mute button that if you hold it pressed, then it retriggers the sequence.
Thanx in advance ;)
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1. Recording of Beatrepeat/looper
2. loop sequence (1-16 / 17-31, 32-48)
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I'd like an arpeggiator on Seq 1 & 2.
Since BSP is also a cv converter, that usually prevents the use of the onboard synths arps.
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wonder if electrical tape would do the trick for disabling the looper? or some insulating material?
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I thinkautosave should be a function. In the day and age, losing my work repeatedly... It's just not on. You hit the wrong key combination trying to save a project and you can end up wiping the whole thing because the unit provides so little feedback as to "yes I've saved that" or "I've saved that sequence, but you need to save the project"....
An auto save, with the option to reload back to the last officially saved version would be perfect, especially when you accidentally put in a dodgy note....
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Another one i dont think was mentioned:
Option to turn the looper into a note repeat funcion for recording and performing.
Something like maschine.
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The 2 things I really want:
1) (By all means correct me if I'm wrong and it already does this - ) I'd like a way of linking the pads to the sequences of the selected sequencer (Seq1, Seq2, Drum). Tap pad 1 it starts playing seq1, then tap pad 5 and it goes to seq5 etc. The normal link buttons would still apply. I know you can hold the sequencer key down and select seqs by clicking on the numbered buttons but I want a one handed selection process because I haven't always got 2 hands free and I'd prefer to use the pads rather than little buttons.
2) Also, as has been suggested, an option for ensuring that when you select a new seq the device completes the current one then starts at the beginning of the next one.
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An option for ensuring that when you select a new seq the device completes the current one then starts at the beginning of the next one + 1 :)
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I'm surprised to have not seen this in this thread -
I'd love the ability to 'edit all' steps - to be able to increase or decrease velocity/gate time for all steps in a sequence by holding shift and turning one of the encoders.
Also, being able to actually mute individual drums without having to switch to the drum sequencer first would be nice. i.e. currently if you're in one of the melodic sequencers, if you hold the drum + mute you can see the current mutes, but tapping them does nothing until you actually enter the drum sequencer.
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When running the Beatstep Pro as the master device, the midi in is redundant. Why not make it useful (if it's not hard wired) by giving us the option of switching the midi in into a second midi out so we don't have to daisy chain midi devices via midi throughs. It makes a lot of sense and it's much tidier. ;)
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Pattern chaining would be great. But if not, a MIDI command that would advance to the next sequence, and another one to go back. It would have great to have foot pedals to do that but short of a hardware rev...
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analogue sync in working to some degree!
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Being able to configure CV out for Buchla standard 1.2v/oct via the MCC would be great...
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I would like to see program change messages sent with sequence changes rather than just manually in control mode. I want to be able to assign sounds to certain sequences that way when the sequence changes the sound does too.
MIDI CC recording and playback or even manually programming step CC with Knobs (I know this has already been mentioned).
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First off: Is this thread read by Arturia at all and do suggestions in here have any chance to be implemented???
My biggest gripe with the BSP is, that it does not persist/restore values per channel in Control mode. This leads to all kind of "interesting" effects in live situations - like blowing everybodies ears out!
So I desperately need:
- Save the current values and states of all the Knobs, Buttons and Pads assigned to UserChannel when changing the channel on the BSP
- Restore the previous values and stated of all the Knobs, Buttons and Pads assigned to UserChannel when changing the channel to the ones they had on this channel before.
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At this point midi din clock, and less buggy sequencing would be nice... Long notes, record notes as played... Simple stuff.
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I would like to be able to adjust the slide time, at the moment it is fixed, i would like to do long slow slide between two notes..
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I'd like to be able to write a sequencing and not having BSP after do what he pleases with it
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Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please! Please!
REAL TIME DELETE OF DRUM PARTS :) :) :)
On the Drum Sequencer:
Make a combo function like (Shift+Mute) hold drum pad to delete part in real time.
I perform with a modular and for me I record and then delete drum parts and triggers the entire time, building the set as I go without any pre recording sequences .
I want to use the BSP SOOOOO bad live but with out this function I can not.
PLEASE! I LOVE THIS LITTLE BEAST!!!!
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Some great suggestions in here but I really think at this stage we'll be lucky if arturia can even get the BSP to do half the stuff it's actually meant to do, never mind added requests. :'(
They can't even be arsed to give us any feedback on the bug fixes, choosing to ignore replying to genuine posts regarding serious issues and for it not functioning properly and the lack of support, mines is now arranged to be returned to thomann.
For the benefit of the other BSP owners that are enduring the issues, FFS arturia moderators get your fingers out your backsides and give these guys an update.
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Stop crying, you don't even own one. Do you stand by the cinema door and tell paying viewers that the movie is poor and the seats are sticky AFTER GETTING YOUR MONEY REFUNDED? Go find something to replace the BSP you owned, that is a much more productive activity than coming here and talking smack.
Release notes for firmware updates can be found on the support page. For each firmware release there is a question-mark (?) next to the download link. Hover your mouse over it and it will reveal release notes for that version.
Forum moderators (don't know which other moderators you could be talking about) moderate the forum, they don't write firmware.
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I still own it until it's collected and refunded, you absolute belter!
Would you have preferred I posted praise and some highly unlikely additional feature I would like added?
You keep deluding yourself into thinking all these additional features are going to be added when they can't even get the basics of the thing working correctly in the first place :o
I will find something to replace it, most likely social entropy's engine. But obviously like everyone here, I wanted the BSP to work.
How's that firmware update and support working out for you?
Thanks for the education but I know exactly what a moderator is and if you read any of their previous posts you will see that some are occasionally conveying information regarding firmware, so they are more than capable of providing any update on the current situation. This would provide purchasers like me the information required on whether any progress was being made and enable us to make the decision whether to stick with it in the time frame we may have before returning.
You're just pissed because you never returned yours and are now stuck with it in it's current state and have had the realisation that it's unlikely ever to work as intended.
Don't let that cinema door hit you on the ass on the way in, Sucker!
Stop crying, you don't even own one. Do you stand by the cinema door and tell paying viewers that the movie is poor and the seats are sticky AFTER GETTING YOUR MONEY REFUNDED? Go find something to replace the BSP you owned, that is a much more productive activity than coming here and talking smack.
Release notes for firmware updates can be found on the support page. For each firmware release there is a question-mark (?) next to the download link. Hover your mouse over it and it will reveal release notes for that version.
Forum moderators (don't know which other moderators you could be talking about) moderate the forum, they don't write firmware.
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Cheers for the reply, but really can you take your useless posts elsewhere? You bring nothing of worth to the table.
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Cheers for the reply, but really can you take your useless posts elsewhere? You bring nothing of worth to the table.
Can't say any of your posts could be considered beneficial to anyone but now that I realise you are the sole decider of what's relevant in the forum, I'm sure everyone will be keen to contact you before they post, just in-case it's below your acceptance criteria.
The reality is that the BSP is currently ridiculously buggy and many of those issues are looking highly unlikely to be resolved, if ever.
My original post contained a realistic response to that and my genuine issue with the BSP, a small parting request to get the moderators attention, in the hope that it may inspire the ones capable to provide any progress update to you guys.
Anyway, enjoy your BSP it must work perfectly with your other duff product, the rhythm wolf :D
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Let's get back on topic, a nice feature would be a save all patterns function.
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Reading your post gives me the idea to…
Edit some steps on seq1, 2, drum seq, and save the project. It save the three current selected pattern on the three sequencer (without the need to save it individually). ;D , thanks!
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I tried that when I first got it and it didn't work. It saved the patterns pre-changes but any changes after saving the patterns didn't save. I'll have to try again, cheers.
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Switch for Roller /Looper
to activate/deactivate the toughstrip
"Especillay when you perform with the Mutes of Sequ. 1 and 2, you have to be so damned carefull with the fingers, that I can not "park" my hand comfortably on the surface and reach the mute buttons. Especially, when additionally playing with the right hand then the pads."
For the Drum Part,
to make different loop lengths for every single "Trigger track" , not only for the whole Drum-Sequence.
Sabatini
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Had a blast with my new Beatstep Pro last night. After a few hours of sequencing and tweaking, these are the thing I found I was missing:
-individual drum mutes in drum sequencer
-pattern nudge
-a way to reset all sequencers back to step one. Maybe that should be the default behaviour for the stop button. Pause pauses, stop stops and returns to the beginning. If you're jamming out and change the last step on one sequence to a different value than the other sequences, then return it to the same value, the sequences will be off if you didn't make this change on the 1. The only way I could get it back was stop all sequences, set the last step to 1, start the sequencer, then set the last step back to the same as the other sequencers. Ugh. I RTFM, but please let me know if I'm missing some better way to do this.
-and last but certainly the opposite of least, THE ENCODERS NEED HELP. They're a pain to use, especially in Control mode. Trying to perform a precise filter sweep over the length of a measure was nearly impossible. Sure, I could flick the knob as fast as I could and get from 0 to 127 almost instantly, but no one wants to do that. I'm thinking the only way to get them feeling the way people are expecting is to add an additional acceleration option that quantizes the encoder's output resolution so that one revolution will bring you from 0 to 100%. It's also been suggested that SHIFT+knob could scroll faster. What if SHIFT+ knob could be another global option? So you could choose both user acceleration and SHIFT acceleration. That would be hot. So you could set the user default to be "quantized" for filter tweaks, etc. and SHIFT+knob default to be "slow" for getting real precise. I think that would be completely doable on the software side and totally awesome on the user side. Let's do this, Arturia.
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Hi , you can mute drum hits by in drum mode hold down drum then mute and press the pads you want to mute
regards
Terrym
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You da MAN! (or WOMAN!) Thanks!
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A feature i do like is transposing with an external midi controller on a specific channel. That is awesome.
In the same philosophy, it would be very useful to set a specific pattern number or at least trigger a "next pattern" command through midi (for instance, this would allow a dummy clip in ableton to trigger a specific pattern in beatstep).
Anyone still using something called ableton? Or are laptops a thing of the past? ;D
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1) possibility to define which pad/pads in drum sequencer has to be affected from randomness
2) possibility for randomness probability to be set in beat/bars or steps (usefull mostly for techno and house or similar)
3) copy/paste inside the pattern
4) +1 for microshift also on melodic sequencer
5) +1 on pattern nudge
6) separate midi control mode from projects (to have 16 different control modes without change project)....really really really a great feature that will make your hardware a MUST HAVE imo
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-change pattern start point
-play sequence to end before pattern change
-16 seperated controller maps
--> 3 must haves for an adequate work flow in a live situation, because the BSP is designed for this.
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regarding pattern length in regards to pattern change behaviour - look how elektron have done in octatrack - copy that :)
i'd like to be able to choose to synchronize pattern change to a bar/note value - for predictable pattern changes between sequences of different step lengths). it's actually more useful than simply "end of pattern" that will easy get your sequences time shifted
so, +1000 on ability to quantize sequence change to bar start or some note value or sequence end
+1 on seq nudge, that is shifting the sequence 16 step forward and back, and step copy-paste
+1 on ability to set pattern length/resolution (number bars/last step) individually for the 16 drum tracks, not only on the whole drum pattern, for polyrhythm, etc
also please please
- micro timing shift for melodic sequences as well
- ability to choose what steps should be affected by swing and random per sequence
- option to output CV voltage (pitch and velocity) on a step without gate present
- simple polyphonic sequencing, i.e. ability to choose extra notes triggered per step, as on Octatrack (cv still outputs root note only)
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The Beatstep Pro definitely has the potential to become a contender in the sequencer world! Here are some missing features that I think would improve workflow and flexibility immensely:
- Step button + OCT-/OCT+ transposes that step one octave down/up (à la TB303/x0xb0x).
- Step button + Record copies step (à la Elektron).
- Step button + Play pastes step (à la Elektron).
- Step button + Stop clears step (à la Elektron).
- When holding a Step button the note value is displayed by blinking the corresponding keyboard button. The PITCH/VELO/GATE (depending on selection) value is shown in the red LED display.
- SEQUENCER1/2/DRUM + << / >> nudges the pattern one step to the left/right (à la Elektron).
- SEQUENCER1/2/DRUM + Record copies pattern (à la Elektron).
- SEQUENCER1/2/DRUM + Play pastes pattern (à la Elektron).
- SEQUENCER1/2/DRUM + consecutively held Step buttons sets up a pattern chain (a la Elektron/TR606).
- SHIFT + MUTE solos track.
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A feature i do like is transposing with an external midi controller on a specific channel. That is awesome.
Hi,
This feature is available. You can choose a transposition channel in the MCC, then when the BSP plays and you send from an external midi keyboard or via USB on this channel it will transpose your sequence(s).
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Very important :
Having the possibility to have a different midi channel per instrument on the drum sequencer so I can use a multitimbral synth or several synths for the drums.
Less important but…
Too bad that the random play on a sequence has disappeared on the BeatstepPro compared to the first Beatstep.
THX.
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i'd like to be able to choose to synchronize pattern change to a bar/note value - for predictable pattern changes between sequences of different step lengths). it's actually more useful than simply "end of pattern" that will easy get your sequences time shifted
so, +1000 on ability to quantize sequence change to bar start or some note value or sequence end
Definitely. I can't help feeling this is somehow related to the lack of a concept like a "song/arrangement mode" (i think i'm correct in saying it doesn't have that?), and those two things combined prevent me from buying a BSP. I feel i need at least one of the two.
Jamming is the easy bit, i find finishing tracks hard, so i'd like a sequencer that helps me arrange, even if it's super-primitive. I could live without it if i could select the next pattern at any time during the current pattern. I don't want to have to have hands free at the critical moment, or rely on my iffy timing ;)
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patterns should change (optional, but let me set it!) at the end of previous pattern. if not it is to sell it. you say it is a performance tool... can you imagine in a performance to stay concentrate on the last step in order to change a pattern???
also, you let me select forward, backward and alternate directions and triplet, but it looses the synch, so for what is useful??
thank you
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+1 for wait till end of sequence to change pattern, pattern chaining or song mode.
The ability to assign some sort of parameter lock on CC's other than velocity would be amazing, if maybe a bit too much to ask for.
Novation is on Arturia's heels spec wise with the Circuit offering pattern chaining and motion sequencing, although they are different machines and the CIrcuit trades an internal sound engine for cv gate control and polyphony for drum parts, it largely has the same appeal as an intuitive performance mother brain sequencer.
All said though I'm almost considering a return on the BSP and picking up the old EM-1. :-[
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Play current pattern until end of bar etc before pattern switch will have to be available if I was going to go ahead and buy one. I was going to get one this week but I'm holding off now.
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The most important improvement for me would be induvidual midi-channels per drum pad.
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+1 individual midi-channels per drum pad ;D
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Swing, Randomness, Probability to individual drum sounds.
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+1
-pattern chaining
-pattern repetition (x1, x2, etc) before shift in a pattern chain
-finish sequence before pattern change when manually changing sequences
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but... One of the features I have had on hardware sequencers in the past was a step advance recording mode. By that, I mean that it records without the clock running so every time you hit a key, it records the value and then automatically advances to the next step, with of course, some ability to input rests, ties etc. This is (to me) easier than the step button/key(pad) workflow.
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hey all,
i really love the beatstep pro and i thought about additional features and how to involve them
to the existing firmware:
COPY STEP:
reason* sometimes its a mess to rotate the encoders to hell and heaven just to set values of all steps
to the same state:
PRESS and HOLD the source STEP to copy, then PRESS and HOLD SHIFT followe by pressing RECORD to COPY the STEP "in the buffer"
PRESS and HOLD the destination STEP, then PRESS and HOLD SHIFT followed by pressing PLAY. the pressed STEP now has the informations of
the source step .. will evolve the workflow dramaticly. try it out arturia how fast you create more interesting patterns without wiggling the pots to death !
PATTERN ITERATION:
PRESS and HOLD SHIFT followed by PRESSING and HOLDING the desired SEQUENCE BUTTON . hold it down! . now press << or >> to move all steps
of a sequence one step back or forth
SINGLE DRUM ITERATION:
PRESS and HOLD SHIFT followed by PRESSING and HOLDING DRUM (left hand) + desired DRUMPAD BUTTON (right hand) ** ..
now press << or >> to move the TRIGGERSTEPS of a single DRUMPAD
** alternative LED BLINKIN could visualize a LATCH STATE for this COMMAND ??
PATTERN CHANGE BEHAVIUR:
SHIFT + PRST LNK + any SEQUENCE activate pattern change ONLY AFTER the last step of the choosen SEQUENCE is reached
do the combo again on the same SEQUENCE again deactivate this mode
PATTERN CHAIN:
*PRST LNK active !
select any sequence, PRESS and HOLD down SHIFT+RECORD+PLAY, press the steps to get chained, blinking led as activation respone ?!
could be the beginning of a songmode ;) there is just the question left if there is a four bar long sequence and a three bar long sequence and
where to change the pattern then .. set priority anyhow?
would also be possible to use the encoders for changing the repeat (03x, 05x, 1x, 1,5x, 2x .. etc) of the pressed CHAIN STEP
would be great to get some feedback by the commi and the makers ;)
great tool .. hope it grows and u wouldnt let it die
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+1 GATE DIVIDE à la Numerology
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Mine had scales mapped to controller mode when I first got it and it was soooo much better for speed and work flow. I updated and now the "bug" is gone.
Please implement scales to controller mode or at least make it an option. It will make more money for your company which is also a nice bonus feature.
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Hi all,
i wonder if we could get some "Ordnung muss sein" into this fantastic thread.
Could anyone, preferably a moderator or a skilled BeatStepper make an interactive list of all the suggestions and assign three caterogies to it ?
Or putting in into a poll if this forum has polls.
Arturia would see what we REALLY need, what we want and what is nice to have.
Like Sequences pattern changes REALLY NEED ( i've seen the vid , Terry :) , or copy paste functions and all that shizzle
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Hello,
Would also love to see the following features implemented..
1) COPY AND PASTE to duplicate steps 1-16 to 17-32 etc..to greatly improve workflow.. (WTF!??) (or am I just blind and can't see how to do this?)
2) NUDGE (sequence forward or back)
3) SKIP steps
4) SCATTER function for sequence playback(as the randomness and probability function generally doesn't give the results i'm looking for.
5) shift / timing for individual steps in seq 1 and 2
Thanks.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/arturiabeatsteppro/permalink/1627462497530491/?qa_ref=qd
YES !! Exactly like this :-D
Awesome job Tom !
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Now that 1.3 has a pattern chaining feature . You know we want the ability to save this as part of a project .
Also for the wish list , changing divisions and timing made recordable within a pattern .
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Would really love to be able to send swing out to DIN Synced devices. If i could get some swing going on my 606 that would make me a happy boy!
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Great work on the update! Nice to see new features implemented..
Would love to see step repeat and step skip functions added in a future update..
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did they include that die start/stop is just a small trigger, or is it still high while playing?
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Please allow Seq 1/2 CV 0V midi note to be set lower than -2 octaves on the MCC, -7 would be ideal.
Edit: makes more sense now
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Things I would like to see.
MIDI assignments stored with patterns.
Program changes on pattern switch.
BSP to receive remote program changes.
Easy delete/undo of single drum parts.
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Would really love to see
Per step note division
step skip
step repeat..\
Really hoping to see these features implemented in a future update..
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In order of importance:
1. Optimize the sensitivity of the pads so you can reasonably play a low velocity note without carefully nudging the corner OR allow the user to adjust the sensitivity themselves.
2. After a pattern is transposed, holding a step button and pressing a pad (to record a note) should record the note that you press and not automatically be transposed (as it is now) which creates confusion and unpredictability. (I think the BSP "remembers" the original pattern as well as the fact that it has been transposed--I don't see why this is necessary, transposing should just change the pattern.)
3. Hopefully this is possible: Make pads for Drum section and Control Mode assignable to MIDI Channels, rather than just CC. (So you can use pads to play a Volca Sample for example.)
4. In addition to a "Last Step" function, also being able to assign a "First Step" which would rearrange the pattern.
5. This one is probably wishful thinking, but a selection function to adjust parameters of multiple steps would be great: Hold shift, hold a step, press another step = the step buttons pressed as well as those in between will all be selected, let go of the step buttons, turn knob 1 and pitch/velo/gate/shift will all be affected for each of the selected steps (absolute or relative option in MIDI Control Center?) let go of shift and back to normal.
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1) Individual MIDI channels per drum pad (Volca Sample!!)
2) Optimize or customize pad sensitivity
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1) Individual MIDI channels per drum pad (Volca Sample!!)
I blame Korg for this problem, but if you are looking to just trigger the samples manually, you can set this up in Control Mode. Using MIDI Control Center, set which ever pads you want to assign the Volca channel to, to the corresponding midi channel. The note value does not matter. I had the same issue, and this is working for me. I have the top row (Pads 9-16 = MIDI 1-8), and two from the bottom (Pads 7&8 = MIDI 9&10) set up to trigger samples, and Pads 1-6 set up to trigger oft used drums. The benefit: you can trigger and roll the samples and drum hits without looping. The caveat: you can't sequence the samples using the BSP, and have to rely on the Volca for sequencing.
+1 on the suggestion none the less. I like the live feel manual triggering gives, but would like the option of sequencing from the BSP. Building samples into an entire project would be nice, as opposed to the 16 steps the Volca gives. This would truly be handy for someone like me who builds a "kit" from multiple drum machines for their specific sounds (Kick from a TR-707, but clap from an RZ-1). Add to this the Volca Sample, and creating one "percussion" sequence including multiple drum sources and samples would be awesome. Make that a +2 on this one.
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And now for my wishlist:
- That cool new feature that was just added for changing velocity and gate for all steps would be nice for pitch, too. I'd like to transpose the pattern by semitones using the same Shift+Knob Function. Maybe Knob 1 for the current "16," and Knob 2 for the entire pattern. Or maybe Knobs 1-4 can transpose in sets of 16 (1=1-16, 2=17-32, etc), 5&6 in sets of 32, 7 for the whole pattern, and heck… knob 8 for the entire project. It would be most helpful to be able to write steps 1-16, copy to 17-32 and just transpose by a semitone or two in either direction. This would also be helpful when starting a new pattern, where all default to C3, but need to be tuned up or down to a different starting point.
- It's been mentioned, but MIDI channel assignments by project would be nice, and assignments by Pad in the drums would also be quite welcome.
- Please add the Volca sync rate of 1 pulse per 2 steps - or just allow a value to be entered, which would be much more flexible, and also enable users to "fake" tempos to other devices, like cutting the output in half to cause slave devices to run at half speed - thus increasing their "loop" time.
140 bpm on BSP = 70bpm on a synced device or one bar of 16ths on BSP = 2 bars of 8ths on the slave.
- Tempo changes assigned on a per pattern basis would be nice. Not all songs use the same tempo from beginning to end.
There are also a few bugs:
- There's that first step from the "previous" pattern issue when using PRST LINK and "wait to change." To reiterate, switching from a pattern causes the first step from the "previous" pattern to play before steps 2+ from the "next" pattern.
- I've had an issue where the note hangs when a sequencer is muted. I'm guessing a "note off" or "release" message needs to be sent with the mute?
- I've had issues with the drums double-triggering when "tap" recording while the sequence is running. This does not occur on playback, but sounds horrible during that first pass.
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Wouldn't changing the note values using the zhift+knob1 method produce the same results as using the Transpose function only via a knob? You will still need to use two hands and still have little idea of what the values are changing to (other than your memory and mental ability to transpose). I would be a little smoother when transposing notes over an octave from their original key.
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Dreaming of...
Make Drum Sequencer into a 3rd Melodic Sequencer.
Make Control Mode into a Melodic Sequencer.
In short, the option to change any function mode on any "mode page".
So you can have 4 melodic seqs or 2 drum seqs + 2 control pages, etc.
Cheers
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The drum sequencer is a polyphonic melody sequencer, if you want to use it that way.
Limited in some ways compared to the other two, but still usable...
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I´m already using it that way... ;)
Hence the idea of interchangeable functions between blocks, and the possibilities it carries.
It would be nice to have the option.
Cheers
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The drum sequencer is a polyphonic melody sequencer, if you want to use it that way.
Limited in some ways compared to the other two, but still usable...
I've used drum sequencers this way in the past; the trademark sound and feel of a drum sequencer playing a poly synth is a feature of early Cylob tracks (as well as other musician's 'experimental' tracks). Lotsa fun for a while, but sitting down and editing midi drum maps on drum machines so that your beats pump out coherent melodies too is really, really painstaking. Easier to set up and more successfully musical is running melody step sequencers into drum machines. And it's amazing how many people have never thought of doing it (sound like a pro by suggesting it to your mates next session, just remember which note triggers the cowbell and avoid it like the plague ;) ).
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just made the latest update.
How can I set the bsp so that it jumps to the next pattern after the old pattern reaches its end?
cant find it in the manual.
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Setting is in the MCC.
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how is it called? is it the "Seq Link"?
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how is it called? is it the "Seq Link"?
Do you have the latest mcc? if so in the mcc you will find in the righthand column wait to load patten.
regards
Terrym
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Wouldn't changing the note values using the zhift+knob1 method produce the same results as using the Transpose function only via a knob? You will still need to use two hands and still have little idea of what the values are changing to (other than your memory and mental ability to transpose). I would be a little smoother when transposing notes over an octave from their original key.
I wasn't originally aware of that function, but after checking it out, I can still say "not exactly." Yes, you can transpose upward instantly with the pads in half steps or multiple steps, but it seems that you can only go down in octaves. There doesn't seem to be a way to "climb" downward. That method has filled part of my need, so thanks for pointing it out. But… I'd like to be able to go down in smaller increments.
At any rate, whatever you can or cannot do with the pads, it still transposes the entire pattern. For a new pattern, I'd like to be able to create a bar, copy it to bars 2-4, and then say, bump bar 2 down one note, and bar 4 up one note. A very basic example would be to make Bar 1 using A1 A2 A1 A2, and quickly turn it into 4 bars of A1 A2 A1 A2 G0 G1 G0 G1 A1 A2 A1 A2 B1 B2 B1 B2. As it is right now, you'd have to go through every step of bars 2 & 4 to accomplish that (32 adjustments). A shift+knob transpose would require only 2 knobs to complete.
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I agree transposing down using the BSP pads is annoying. Workaround: use a midi keyboard to send transpose notes to the BSP.
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+1 on Program changes on pattern switch (and pattern switch on program change).
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+1 ratcheting for the sequencer (1-4 note-repeats during one sequencer step; like with the Mother-32)
This would incredibly enhance expressiveness!
One way to implement it could be:
[holding the corresponding step] + [playing the pad (1-4 times) -> recording note pitch (like it currently does) AND ratchet count]
The gate length for each step repetition could be:
[gate length] = [gate length encoder value] / [ratchet count]TIES and SLIDES wouldn't make sense, of course.
Maybe somebody has ideas what to do with them instead?
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+1 pattern change via MIDI/In (so it can be foot switch controlled)
+1 Having the option in the MCC to change the roller division to: | 1/4 | 1/6 | 1/8 | 1/12 |
-> This would be awesome for all the pseudo-dubstepists who have their non-triplet 4/4 running but occasionally throw in some 1/6.
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An option to continue sending clock messages when the BSP is stopped.
I want to use BSP as a master clock - but I'd like to be able to stop the sequencer to tweak sounds, and still have the units controlled by the BSP receiving clock so that clock synced LFOs, arps, etc, will still work. Hitting "play" when the BSP was previously stopped could hard-reset the clock (as it does when the sequence is reset with shift+play introduced in the 1.3 update).
This could be a simple on/off global device option in the MCC. This is an option that I find in many other daws/clocking tools. It would be nice to have with the BSP - allowing the stating/stopping of the BSPs sequences to be decoupled with the start and stopping of everything in the environment (after all, transport midi signals can still be used for this selectively). Then whether or not sequences are playing can be an independent musical choice. Just because I stop the sequence doesn't mean I want to stop the music.
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An option to continue sending clock messages when the BSP is stopped.
I want to use BSP as a master clock - but I'd like to be able to stop the sequencer to tweak sounds, and still have the units controlled by the BSP receiving clock so that clock synced LFOs, arps, etc, will still work. Hitting "play" when the BSP was previously stopped could hard-reset the clock (as it does when the sequence is reset with shift+play introduced in the 1.3 update).
This could be a simple on/off global device option in the MCC. This is an option that I find in many other daws/clocking tools. It would be nice to have with the BSP - allowing the stating/stopping of the BSPs sequences to be decoupled with the start and stopping of everything in the environment (after all, transport midi signals can still be used for this selectively). Then whether or not sequences are playing can be an independent musical choice. Just because I stop the sequence doesn't mean I want to stop the music.
Yup, this is really important.
My work around of using my Novation Zero to provide constant clock signal while the BSP is stopped wasn't a great solution so I'm using another sequencer for timing right now, but prefer to use the BSP for transport control and to change the tempo. Especially the tempo, as every other sequencer I have requires several button presses before I can adjust the tempo. That and the need to have clock being received to tweak midi timing reliant modulations. Also the ability to run sequencers without having to have the BSP running. As is, it's quite disabling for me when running the BSP as a master clock.
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Just a +1 for Midi channels per drum pad... :)
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What would be great:
-copy selection and stick it at the end of the selection (useful for copying patterns with other time signatures than plain 4X4)
-transpose the current pattern up or down
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May I suggest...
Make the firmware open, so anyone (who knows how) can write/modify the firmware, adding and/or improving features, and share it with others. ;)
Like
- Make an ableton control script using control mode.
- Have the option to make the encoders transmit like encoders and not like pots, so we can have relative or absolute value changes, for scrolling thru lists, etc.
- separate vel cv output from the pitch and gate ones, so we can have a continuous cv control sequence without the notes been triggered.
- Have the option to light the pads/buttons via midi so to generate some visual feedback...
Anyway, ¿Does this forum supports polls or something like that?
¿So a feature request can proposed and we can all vote for the ones we like/need more,
and a ranking can be generated?
Just asking...
Cheers!
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Yeah, nah, I really don't think they will do that.
You can start poll by clicking the button to the right of the "New Topic" on the upper righthand side of any board, above the "last post" column.
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1) Individual MIDI channels per drum pad (Volca Sample!!)
2) Optimize or customize pad sensitivity
I got the Volca Sample working through the single drum sequencer channel with this RK-002 cable:
http://www.retrokits.com/rk002 (http://www.retrokits.com/rk002)
Works great, you can even use the volume settings on the step to control channel level.
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I can't read the whole thread but I would love to be able to
solo drum parts
or/and
unmute single drum parts (or a bunch together) from the muted state. (when you have muted the whole rhythm part).
Also, I witnessed a bug. Sometimes (in fact, really often) the sequence slides off the beat,when I switch patterns while playing. Stopping the sequence and starting again fixes this.
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What would be great:
-transpose the current pattern up or down
thats already possible!
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Would love to see a "mute hold" function like they have with the Elektron machines.
Hold drum+mute and tap the elements you would like to mute/un-mute when released drum+mute buttons.
This could be optional by selecting this function on/off in the MIDI control center. Or maybe a button combination like shift + drums + mute(?).
Next to that, it would be nice if there's like a CC record option. Don't know if this is even possible technically speaking.
It's like the Korg Electribe boxes; you can record your movements and it gives your sequence bit more of an edge.
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+ 1 for shifting patterns left/right. This should be essential, like IT is on the X0xb0x. REALLY longing for this feature on bsp.
Is there a way to edit "slide" time when tieing notes?
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+1 to shifting patterns, midi-channel-per-pad in the drum sequencer and on-board drum sequencer transpose.
Saving pattern chains.
Allow drum gates to be channels 9-16 instead of 1-8.
iOS version of MIDI Control Center.
Sysex dump and load (to a regular sequencer/midi recorder, not the MMC).
> An option to continue sending clock messages when the BSP is stopped.
Could you just mute the sequences or load a blank sequence?
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> An option to continue sending clock messages when the BSP is stopped.
Could you just mute the sequences or load a blank sequence?
Not a solution if you don't want every sequencer connected to the BSP to start when you hit it's play button. Akai's "Wolf" range all disable local transport when they are synced via midi, so can't be silenced without stopping the master.
With the constant midi clock signal, you could hit start/play on the sequencer/drum machine you want to run without having to start the BSP then stop the sequencers you don't want running.
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+1 for Ratching or dividing on a step
Shift the start of the sequence, just like you can set the last step if you could something like Shift/LST Step to then set the fist step would be great
And one more thing, could they upgrade to a proper full size USB port, I have already had to hard wire the USB cable in to mine because the connector on the board broke off completely. Those little USB connector are just not up the job for a portable device and i would imagine there will be a lot of Beatstep Pros out of warranty soon with broken connectors, they can be fixed but are a bad design in the first place.
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Wanted: a group edit function
the shift+encoder for setting relative/absolute parameter values for a sequence was greatly appreciated in firmware1.3.
However, would be very nice to have a sort of group edit function, that would allow to set values for a range of steps.
First idea for this came from the Cyklon sequencer, where you turn two value encoders simultaneously to set a linearily changing value for a range of steps.
How this could best work on BSP, well here's an idea:
-after activating group edit (maybe shift+some step button) select a step range similarily to activating several steps, i.e. pressing two step buttons simultaneously it make that the active range for edit functions.
-then you could turn any two encoders to change parameter startpoint and endpoint values and the values for selected range would then be set.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the ability to save different midi note and channel configurations for the drum sequencer pads per project would be helpful with compatibility with other gear. It is an option for the Control Mode, so it would seem like an easy fix for a firmware update.
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+1 for individual Midi channels and cv gates for the 16 drum dracks
With the midi I could individually trigger up to 16 sequencers in evolver, blofeld, etc. and with the cv gates I could trigger or switch effects on and off!
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Hi! I use the BSP with my modulars and I mostly record my drums in real time with the pads.
It would be great fill wise to have an arpegiator on the drum seq. It could bypass the ongoing sequence when played with the pads.Maybe it could work in conjuction with the roller/looper ribbon for the speed of the arpegiations?
Add triplets and sixteenth note triplets in the roller/looper divisions too...
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The update that introduced the option of "wait for pattern to complete before switching to selected pattern" was really useful. It's usefulness could be further improved:
When having pressed a < or > button accidentally before having saved changes, it would be very cool if you'd have the opportunity to prevent dataloss by quickly switching back to the pattern that is still playing.
This shouln'd be hard to implement and would make lots of BSP users very happy :-*
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Would like to see an option to adjust velocity for either on beat or off beat notes per drum instrument. So for example a HiHat pattern.
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24 tet microtonal CV scale output or usable firmware. Either one is fine with me, your choice Arturia. :P
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+1 For Nudge pattern left or right. BSP needs this functionality.
Would really like an option where tied notes are treated as one note when editing. For example, if I recorded live some notes longer than one step, and then went to adjust the pitch of one of the steps, then all of the tied notes would also have the pitch adjusted, instead of having to edit them one by one.
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4. In addition to a "Last Step" function, also being able to assign a "First Step" which would rearrange the pattern.
+1 Being able to set the First and Last steps in order to work on a long sequence a section at a time would be especially useful.
IE Isolating steps 17-32 of a 64 step sequence.
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Hi all, just have a beatstep pro, nice sequencer mis a few things:
Skip step function.
Ratching.
Make the drum line also possible for a note line with transposing just as the other two.
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*Pattern nudge left /right
*Vst editor for beatstep pro (like keystep editor.. only seen it fast on Youtube but it looks like a vst editor?)
*More channels if possible
*1 Run without loop (like 4 patterns and after that stops, maybe there is a function like that already?)
*Step by step notes mode like keystep
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- an Undo function
- the possibility to erase all step of a drum element in one time (just clear the paterne of the snare for exemple)
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First off, Beatstep Pro is awesome! Its both changed the way I write music and the way I play live, all for the better.
As a feature request, it would be nice to have the ability to send Midi CCs from each sequencers' knobs as an alternate to their default behaviour. This would give the ability to control synth behavior via midi(oscillator wave shape, filter cutoff frequency, device volume, etc.) while at the same time controlling sequencer behaviour (note sequences, default looper behaviour, sequencer length). Can you imagine having an additional 16 CCs per instrument for a total of 64 CCs for the Beatstep pro?
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+1 on:
1. Ability to shift patter forward/backward
2. Undo
Additionally, there are some cool features on the Moog Mother 32 sequencer I'd love to see in the Beatstep Pro. The "ratchet" feature is pretty cool (it subdivides a step into multiple triggers).
I'm kind of astounded Arturia still hasn't added the ability to shift a pattern forward or backwards. That seems like a pretty glaring omission.
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Changing the behavior of randomness:
The random button can range from -100 to +100.
Positive values only add events to the pattern (proportionally).
Negative values only subtract events (proportionally).
Especially on drums, I think that would make a more interesting control for randomness.
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Most needed feature:
+1 For Nudge pattern left or right. BSP needs this functionality for better realtime recordings
next:
+1 UNDO
+1 A way to choose random probability applied just to notes, velocity or CV in different way ( too much I know...)
Cheers...
Eriberto
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+ 100 = nudging patterns left/right
+ 1 = Polyrythmic drumpatterns
+1 = Flam/ratchet function
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touch a rotary controller and simultaneous touch a notepad to program it's note!
change the value of more than 1 16 rotary controller at once. I will explain this in a new post later.
and more than 1 midi channel possible for the drum channel, OBVIOUSLY grrr.
Open up the software to the public, with an SDK, like someone here suggested. Like korg with it's volca sample. Like novation launchpad.
That would save this product, and everybody that payed for it.
Reading the self back-patting advertisement that is the manual makes me kind of angry. In it's currents state, any old dated electribe is a more advanced sequencer, period.
Because that's what they actually made, an extra limited legacy electribe with modern looks. My 1981 yamaha drummachine is a midi-settings miracle compared to this. Long live 'innovation'.
Arturia: don't just say it's innovative, Make it innovative.
We are waiting for firmware updates.
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Shift pattern left/right. (First step will be 2nd, 2nd will be 3rd etc.)
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SHIFTING/NUDGING NOTES LEFT/RIGHT
RATCHETING(!!!!)
Even the damn Matrixbrute has ratcheting, why haven't they implemented it yet in the BSP?!? This has been requested SO god damn many times, still nothing. Aaaaaaaargh.....
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- settings MIDI channels for the drum sequencer pad!
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Please add pattern chaining SAVE
and a Ratchet feature
cheers
Kev
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Allow sync of Trans Link and Pattern Link between Master and Slave Beatstep Pros
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+1 Polyrythmic drumpatterns!!
Even now BeatStepPro is really useful gear...but it'll be perfect for me if this is implemented.
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+1 on PATTERN NUDGE
+1 on COPY/PASTE bars in a sequence
Or just duplicate the first bar's pattern until the new "Last Step"
Copying a single drum part from another pattern would also be nice to have
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It's needed a User Remote Script
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A feature that I would highly appreciate is the ability to save and recall more than one drum map (set of assignments of midi note numbers to the pads in the drum sequencer). I work with the Clavia Nord Rack 2x and the Yamaha RM50 and both require totally different drum maps.
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A feature that I would highly appreciate is the ability to save and recall more than one drum map (set of assignments of midi note numbers to the pads in the drum sequencer). I work with the Clavia Nord Rack 2x and the Yamaha RM50 and both require totally different drum maps.
Your RM50 is a beast and can have it's instruments remapped to any note on any channel. It's also an ancient beast with a screen that reminds me of an ATM from 1987 and I know the pain of remapping an entire RM50 note map.
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add a feature to send pitch cv/vel cv/gate cv from external keyboard also when the beatstep is playing or recording
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A TRUE MIDI thru option to be able use it as a free assignable controller, not a dedicated one for three devices.
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As a feature request, it would be nice to have the ability to send Midi CCs from each sequencers' knobs as an alternate to their default behaviour. This would give the ability to control synth behavior via midi(oscillator wave shape, filter cutoff frequency, device volume, etc.) while at the same time controlling sequencer behaviour (note sequences, default looper behaviour, sequencer length). Can you imagine having an additional 16 CCs per instrument for a total of 64 CCs for the Beatstep pro?
+1
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Option for patterns to be automatically saved as they're made/edited (auto-save). Please.