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Title: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: jeriqo on November 06, 2010, 02:31:59 pm
Hello,

I'd like to know if it is possible to upgrade from the original Analog Factory Experience to the brand new Analog Laboratory.
Software and/or hardware.
If I buy the new Analog Laboratory, I won't have anymore use for the older/smaller one.

Thanks
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: jonmoore on November 07, 2010, 08:50:33 pm
This seems a perfectly reasonable request to me. The main feature that appeals to me personally (and I'm sure to many others) is to search and filter sounds using the great Analog Factory engine and then be able to fully edit your selection with any of the full version of Arturia synths you happen to own. $299 (or the $249 introductory offer) seems a steep price for this functionality considering many people already own Analog Factory.

If any upgrade path is not going to be made available can you look to include the edit functionality within the existing Analog Factory product.

Many thanks in advance.

JM
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Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: jonmoore on November 07, 2010, 11:54:45 pm
Just read a message from Thomas (Arturia) earlier this year where he makes reference to an upgrade offer for existing Analog Factory customers. Hopefully it should be made public sometime soon. http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=3785.0 (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=3785.0)

Quote
Hello,

The Analog Laboratory is based on Analog Factory, adding a level of functionality by proposing the possibility to associate in layer or in split 2 patches from the 3500 initially provided. Secondly, these project patches will come with sequencing and rhythmic functionalities.

The "sound" (in opposition to project) patches will be editable for owners of the full version of the synthesizer. For instance, if you own Analog Laboratory and MiniMgV, you will be able to edit Analog Laboratory MiniMg patches.

Regarding the upgrade patch, it has no been clearly defined at that time, but there will be some upgrade offers to Analog Factory owners.

Hope this meets your expectations
Thomas
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: trailerman on November 09, 2010, 09:53:12 am
Well, we have a release date and product information, along with details of a discount for the first 1000 purchasers, but nothing on upgrade pricing or how to buy.

I'm also an Analog Factory user and would be very grateful for any details on how we can pre-order or what the upgrade deal will be.

Many thanks for any feedback.

Jules
http://www.trailermen.com
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: jeriqo on November 09, 2010, 02:26:09 pm
I think the announcement was for the software only version "laboratory".
Not Analog experience laboratory.
Still a software upgrade would be welcomed.

Waiting for the hardware version...
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: Antoine on November 09, 2010, 04:06:53 pm
An upgrade path from the Factory to the Laboratory will be setup early January 2011.
More details will come at this time.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: jonmoore on November 12, 2010, 06:50:22 pm
An upgrade path from the Factory to the Laboratory will be setup early January 2011.
More details will come at this time.

Thanks for the official response on this but it seems highly unusual to me that an upgrade for loyal customers comes after the product is made available to non customers.  :(
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: aaron aardvark on November 13, 2010, 06:37:28 am
I own Analog Factory and Prophet V.  Sometimes I'll find a cool sound on Analog Factory, and it has the same patch name in Prophet V.  So, if I find a nice Analog Factory patch with a Prophet 5/VS sound, I go to the Prophet V software and see if I can find it there.  Not easy to remember all of those patches.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: buegna on November 13, 2010, 05:36:02 pm
An upgrade path from the Factory to the Laboratory will be setup early January 2011.
More details will come at this time.

Thanks for the official response on this but it seems highly unusual to me that an upgrade for loyal customers comes after the product is made available to non customers.  :(

I agree.
Who has more experience and will evangelize Analog Lab more than existing users of Analog Factory?
This is the first time I've seen a company, any company, not provide an instant  upgrade path to their existing customers to their new spotlight product.
 :( :(
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: doperdeluxe on December 12, 2010, 01:21:51 pm
Ok, so I've noticed you can now upgrade to laboratory from factory for 49 euros.

How will this work if I own the experience keyboard? will I be able to use my experience keyboard with it, i.e will it sync with the laboratory interface but just leave redundant controls, or will the experience keyboard still appear but I'll be able to do the in depth editing with Arturias soft synths?

I was going to buy the v-collection if I can edit the presets within laboratory, but before I purchase either the upgrade or the v-collection, I'd like to know details of if & how this will work with experience as I can't seem to find this on the website, anyone know?
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: doperdeluxe on December 12, 2010, 06:48:34 pm
Have installed the demo and indeed it does work with experience, it does use up rather more CPU though. On the first arp2600 patch which takes up about 8 or 9% in factory, on Lab 13 or 14%. I tried to use it in the keyboard split mode and it went up to something ridiculous and crashed ableton! I'll give it another go shortly..
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: aaron aardvark on December 12, 2010, 11:51:45 pm
doperdeluxe,
Thank you for your report!  Please continue to do so.  It is a known bug that Analog Factory's 2.5 Jupiter 8 won't allow you to adjust chorus effect & delay effect amounts.  Does Laboratory still have this bug?
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: doperdeluxe on December 13, 2010, 12:20:31 am
Funny you should ask that, but I was just going through the Jupiter8 presets earlier and I remember thinking I couldn't change the amount of delay or chorus which I thought was weird, I'll check this out tomorrow & make sure I didn't just imagine this..
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: aaron aardvark on December 13, 2010, 12:54:04 am
On the Arturia website, where it talks about Laboratory, it shows this:

"Limited time upgrades starting at EUR 49!
If you are a registered user, log into your Arturia account to discover exceptional upgrade and crossgrade offers until December 31, 2010."

I live in the USA.  I clicked on the blue text "log into your Arturia account", and it says nothing about being able to upgrade from Analog Factory (which I currently own) to Laboratory.  Maybe this is only currently in Europe?  My Prophet V registration shows up there, but it doesn't show my Analog Factory/Experience registered there.  Maybe this is why it says nothing of Laboratory.

Edit: OK, I just did the internet registration of my Analog Factory, now I can see I can upgrade to Laboratory for $69 until December 31st.  I am somewhat intrigued by Laboratory, but if I am working on a song in Cubase, I can just open another session/track of Analog Factory and layer sounds if I wish.  I also own Prophet V, but not convinced Laboratory is worth purchasing, but maybe I'm not understanding all of its features.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: justinf on December 23, 2010, 10:38:22 pm
Antoine, I have an upgrade question: if I go ahead and upgrade the software for $69 from my Factory to Laboratory, will this count toward the planned hardware upgrade in January?  Thanks, Justin
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: Antoine on December 27, 2010, 04:05:05 pm
@justinf
Well, I have not a clear sight on this kind of questions, and suggest you to contact my clever colleagues at the Sales department (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/company/contact2.html), they should give you far more accurate information than I could.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: justinf on January 07, 2011, 11:41:25 pm
Antoine, would you mind giving me a hand with this?  I've been waiting on a return email from Denis Da Silva, or someone else, that can point me toward how to upgrade to Laboratory for $49US.  I've had no response for 8-9 days, or since the last week in December.

thanks much, Justin
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: Antoine on January 10, 2011, 11:55:17 am
Justin, it sounds like the offer has caused some overwhelm at the Sales Dept, and even if Denis is being processing hundreds of orders literally since the end of December, there are still a nice amount on the pile.
Anyway, he assured me you would get an answer within the next 48 hours.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: justinf on January 11, 2011, 09:02:36 pm
Awesome.  Thanks very much Antoine--no hurry.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: mike c on January 13, 2011, 12:53:23 am
I recently bought Analog Factory with the hope of upgrading to Analog Lab, is this still available?
thanks
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: artpunk on May 19, 2011, 03:39:31 pm
I recently bought Analog Factory with the hope of upgrading to Analog Lab, is this still available?
thanks
I too would like to know an answer to this! Could someone please answer the above question? Please?
 ???
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog LaboratoryW
Post by: artpunk on May 28, 2011, 07:24:25 am
Could anyone official from Arturia please reply?. >:(
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: Antoine on May 30, 2011, 05:28:32 pm
For all ordering-related questions, please feel free to contact our Sales Department through the Contact form (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/company/contact2.html) (choose "Sales" as subject for adequate redirection).
Thanks for your understanding.
Title: Re: Upgrade from Analog Factory Experience to Analog Laboratory
Post by: artpunk on May 30, 2011, 11:15:25 pm
For all ordering-related questions, please feel free to contact our Sales Department through the Contact form (http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/company/contact2.html) (choose "Sales" as subject for adequate redirection).
Thanks for your understanding.
Thank you Antoine,
My question was answered when I finally picked up The Factory from my local 'Rock Garage' yesterday afternoon, installed & registered the software and immediately saw upgrade options to the Laboratory. Generous, but unfortunately expire today! Having just spent money on the Factory (and wanting to have a bit of time to get to know if I like it - I do so far btw!) the offer expires just a bit too soon...  :-\