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Hardware Sequencers => KeyStep Pro => KeyStep Pro - Feature Requests => Topic started by: Toonook on June 22, 2020, 06:32:45 am
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If I'm going to be controlling multiple synths from this once device, it would be brilliant to actually be able to trigger a program change for a different set of patches as the song progresses.
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If I'm going to be controlling multiple synths from this once device, it would be brilliant to actually be able to trigger a program change for a different set of patches as the song progresses.
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I could'nt find a solutions to change programs in multimode on my kawai cn 37. That would be really nice. The Kawai cn 37 even has drumsounds.
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This was another very big surprise (disappointment) from this controller. I was gutted to find out that program changes from Cubase are not passed through the KSP and onto my synths. They are blocked at the keyboard and simply change the pattern number instead.
There are quite a few of these unexpected shortcomings. I would recommend making note of this through support, so it can be brought to the attention of development staff. Things like this, really need to be integrated in a future firmware update.
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+1 from me as well
This is big disappointment, would be great to have it sorted as soon as possible
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Agree, this could be a "master controller" but right now it feels like a controller with 4 channels.
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If I'm going to be controlling multiple synths from this once device, it would be brilliant to actually be able to trigger a program change for a different set of patches as the song progresses.
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At least give us a proper TRHU or pass the pgm changes from IN to the OUTs
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If I'm going to be controlling multiple synths from this once device, it would be brilliant to actually be able to trigger a program change for a different set of patches as the song progresses.
yes pls - My Number #1 Feature Request - Just bought the One Keystep Pro for use with a minimialist 3 vintage synths and a Drum machine - dont want to have to chain in an iPad or PC just to send program changes !! its amazing except for this one feature missing !
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I am also hoping for this to be implemented! trying to use a foot controller to control additional parameters, but no such luck. Everyone, please write support with this request!
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+1 also from me!
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I have 2 synths which only interface is MIDI (one is a Ploytec PL2) so I can't use them without Program change.
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Its pretty unbelievable that this is STILL not implemented with the 2.0 firmware. For a controller that bills itself as the be-all for controlling hardware, this is a gigantic miss.
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i really love the update the long list of good and usefull new features and bugfixes. i dont want to blame arturia. much love for your good productsupport policy <3 !! But i also was looking very hopefully looking for the 2.0fw to finaly send programm changes to my external synth. and i was pretty sure this feature would come in the upcoming fw.
so i was a bit disapointed too as i read the changelog and realised this often requested feature is not included in the firmware revison. I really wanted the keystep to be my brain of my livesets iam building and safely lean on it for a good workflow in the next years (like for example elektron). Dont get me wrong iam still pretty impressed by this performant and good sequencer! But without to do programm changes there is a big point which downgrades the ksp for me a bit.
The point is, when i want to do programm changes on external gear nevertheless the only way to do this now is to use some additional source/device extra for that. for example i can do it with clips in a daw that iam triggering wich do the changes on the synth over a launchpad. but in this case i also need a additional midi merger to bundle the midisignal correctly from the ksp & the device that is triggering the pgm changes, so there is also no benefit to now get a miditruh option atleast. And for now thats the only way to accomplish it that occurs to me, so it seems to be i have to go this way.
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i really love the update the long list of good and usefull new features and bugfixes. i dont want to blame arturia. much love for your good productsupport policy <3 !! But i also was looking very hopefully looking for the 2.0fw to finaly send programm changes to my external synth. and i was pretty sure this feature would come in the upcoming fw.
so i was a bit disapointed too as i read the changelog and realised this often requested feature is not included in the firmware revison. I really wanted the keystep to be my brain of my livesets iam building and safely lean on it for a good workflow in the next years (like for example elektron). Dont get me wrong iam still pretty impressed by this performant and good sequencer! But without to do programm changes there is a big point which downgrades the ksp for me a bit.
Same for me.
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In a recent segment Nick Batt from SonicState is using the KSP (at 28:00 - 28:30 in the video below) where he stated something to the effect of "..if you had a "master keyboard" that supported Program Changes ....". Sadly, the keyboard he used in the video doesn't include a facility to support midi Program Change messages, "doh".
I got the sense that at that moment he immediately realized that the KSP keyboard he was using for his video lacked the very feature he needed as a workaround for the other device! IRONIC isn't it. Nick then stated he was going to reach out to the "other" vendor to get them to support midi Program Changes in their product. Yet, that product isn't considered a "master keyboard controller". Instead, Nic really needs to contact Arturia and ask them to support midi Program Change messages with the KSP. Here is a perfect example of why this capability is needed. In your face KSP!
My fear is that when and if Arturia ever decides to support midi Program Change messages (in the next 36 months?) it will be some half baked "kluge" where you have to use some intermediate tool like "Midi Control Mangler". What is being requested is the ability to initiate a midi Program Change message in real-time using the a combination of rotary knobs and a simple shift function. Or it's crippled to only let you implement a midi Program Change on selected midi channels like 1-4 instead of any midi channel (1-16 for example). Mark my words.
Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za4UsIO-dKc
"Hi Nick, would you mind opening a case with Arturia and let them know that midi channel Program Change message is long overdue." Thanks :)
Let's hope that "whenever" Arturia gets around to implementing midi Program Change messages via the front panel buttons and encoders it won't be via the "Midi Control Mangler" to get it done.
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This is the most important and useful feature that is not included on the Keystep Pro. I control 3 to 4 synths via MIDI and it is essential for me to be able to send program change messages to all of them. Not only when changing songs, but also when changing between patterns.
Please please please add this feature.
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This is basic functionality - please can we have this feature?
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Yes. Please.
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Absolutely. This isn't a workable live performance tool without this feature for me, which is why I bought it assuming this most basic of functionality would be there. When performing live, uncomplicated and quick change from song to song is crucial. At project level at a minimum, clip level preferred.
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At least have it as a Project setting so that when you select a project it sends Program Change messages
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i was patient aswell but now i think we dont see this feature anymore :( i think iam sadly going to sell my keystep pro and switch for an octatrack or squid.
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+1 please... I really want to invest in the KeyStep Pro but the inability to control external gear via Program Changes is keeping me away.
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Hi,
+1 in 2022.
It should send pre-programed PC and CC message with the project or scene and i would add :
KSP should also receive PC to select Project : there's only 16 project stored in the KSP (could be PC 01 to 16)
and CC to select Scene or Pattern per track as :
CC # / Destination/ Parameter / Value
CC #1 / Track # / Scene / 0 to 127
CC #2 / Track # / pattern / 0 to 127
where # is the Track number, from 1 to 4. For example, CC21 value= between 8-16 launch the Scene 2 of Track 2,
and CC32 value = between 72-80 launch the pattern 10 of Track 3.
and you could add many more control feature with midi.
Even if this feature can only be set up or map on the Midi Control center, i think it is the only big missing piece of the KSP to be the perfect controller for me and a lot of user. It's lot of development works ,i'm sure but that worth it !
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Hi,
+1 in 2023.
I am new here :) and bought a KeyStep Pro a few days ago and I have 3 synthesizers and a DRM-1 connected at the same time.
I love the thing and it's now that key element in my setup.
I own a Beatstep Pro as well.
I would be soooooo happy if I could perform a program change with the respective midi channel when changing projects for the 4 Keystep channels.
This "program change"-feature could be placed in the channel settings as a submenu item, perhaps even with the option to select "perform program change on project call".
Put this in, pleaseeeeee! It would be perfect! 8)
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+1 for Program Change ability
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+1 for I can't believe this is not done already
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