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Title: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: MADVILLA on April 30, 2020, 07:20:55 pm
Surprised pitch bend data cant be recorded into sequences, would be a really nice touch I think! Same with the mod strip as well.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: agion on May 01, 2020, 01:44:01 pm
+1

I agree, was missing this the other day.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: Rituun on May 02, 2020, 11:11:28 am
+1 especially for mod wheel, but I guess it will be stepped as this is a step sequencer...
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: LarsDaniel on May 04, 2020, 10:59:16 am
"...especially for mod wheel, but I guess it will be stepped as this is a step sequencer..."

Well, Keystep Pro has already taken steps away from being "just" a step sequencer: The unquantized recording. So even if we are dealing with a relatively (in modern context) low resolution (is the internal resolution 24PPQ? Anybody knows?), we would just need a tiny bit of slew on pitchbend and modwheel to make it sound good.
So the question is probably, if the processing power is sufficient to deal with the added amount of data. A compromise could be, to only be able to enable pitchbend and modwheel data on one of the sequencers. Man, that would really be cool. (BTW: Hermod records pitchbend and modulation. :-D )
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: TonvaterJan on December 30, 2020, 01:10:34 pm
Quote
Surprised pitch bend data cant be recorded into sequences, would be a really nice touch I think! Same with the mod strip as well.

+1

Just got a Keystep Pro, too and was instantly missing that feature...
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: f2point8 on February 21, 2021, 04:01:37 am
Add me to the list- is this something within the realm of possibility, Arturia? To me it's potentially a missed opportunity not having this feature enabled.


Also- the captcha letters here are RIDICULOUS!! (I'm new here so forgive me, but seriously can anyone read these things??)
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: MajorFubar on February 22, 2021, 12:34:08 pm
(can anyone read these things??)
yep, sometimes as many as 100 spammers a day have no problems at all.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: cnps on March 30, 2021, 09:00:13 pm
Is this still missing in the current firmware? Cheers.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: f2point8 on November 06, 2021, 06:49:52 pm
I just upgraded (finally!) to the newest firmware and I too was surprised this wasn't added. Lack of pitchbend and modwheel recording limits the use of this thing a bit as a performance tool IMO. Perhaps it is a hardware limitation as others have wondered.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: cnps on November 07, 2021, 10:09:26 pm
I just upgraded (finally!) to the newest firmware and I too was surprised this wasn't added. Lack of pitchbend and modwheel recording limits the use of this thing a bit as a performance tool IMO. Perhaps it is a hardware limitation as others have wondered.

Go to the Novation SL MK3 until they release the Keystep Pro II, I'm afraid there is not solution around this for now...
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: MajorFubar on November 09, 2021, 01:38:15 pm
Ah yes, the Novation SL49...the £540 'centrepiece' that can be used to 'control your whole studio', as long as you don't want aftertouch.
Naturally that depends on how much aftertouch matters to you as a player, but for £540 and no aftertouch on a keyboard that promises to be my studio 'centrepiece'?
That's a dealbreaker.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: christophet on November 10, 2021, 03:53:56 am
Ah yes, the Novation SL49...the £540 'centrepiece' that can be used to 'control your whole studio', as long as you don't want aftertouch.
Naturally that depends on how much aftertouch matters to you as a player, but for £540 and no aftertouch on a keyboard that promises to be my studio 'centrepiece'?
That's a dealbreaker.

You should read more carefully the specs… The SL mk3 is just a bit more expensive than the KSP (around 642 usd vs 549 usd) but it is a 8 tracks sequencer (with 8 arpeggiator and 8 split/layer zones) with a full size keyboard with aftertouch. Furthermore the aftertouch is assignable to anything. It also supports full template for any of the synth (hardware or software) you might want to control. And it integrates perfectly with Ableton Live.
The only drawback of the novation SL mk3 is the need of a power supply and the rather limited pattern chaining. So it might not be perfect but it surely has a better bang for the buck ratio than the KSP.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: MajorFubar on November 10, 2021, 02:57:46 pm
Thanks yes just seen it, the 'Tech Specs' tab doesn't specify aftertouch, but I see it now in the Details tab.
Did seem rather odd that it doesn't have it at that price.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: christophet on November 10, 2021, 04:16:22 pm
Thanks yes just seen it, the 'Tech Specs' tab doesn't specify aftertouch, but I see it now in the Details tab.
Did seem rather odd that it doesn't have it at that price.

You are welcome. Yes you are right they don’t put that info in the specs. They put that in the fracture overview which is unfortunate.

I still think KSP is a good keyboard but why they put such limitation on the control track and automation recording :(
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: cnps on November 10, 2021, 08:13:47 pm
Ah yes, the Novation SL49...the £540 'centrepiece' that can be used to 'control your whole studio', as long as you don't want aftertouch.
Naturally that depends on how much aftertouch matters to you as a player, but for £540 and no aftertouch on a keyboard that promises to be my studio 'centrepiece'?
That's a dealbreaker.

I noticed the price was CHF 500 here, so EUR 480. That's only 80 more than what I paid when I bought the KSP brand new (yes I was stupid enough to buy it as it came out). Otherwise I wouldn't compare the two. Now the KSP can be found at around 300, so fair enough. But still, I'd pay 150/180 extra any day to have all the features and stability that the KSP lacks.

That said, you're right SL 49 MKIII lacks polyphonic aftertouch, so I'll wait for a newer version - I guess they'll improve it too.

Unless Arturia releases a KSP II in the meantime, with enhanced functionalities.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: cnps on November 10, 2021, 08:16:18 pm
Ah yes, the Novation SL49...the £540 'centrepiece' that can be used to 'control your whole studio', as long as you don't want aftertouch.
Naturally that depends on how much aftertouch matters to you as a player, but for £540 and no aftertouch on a keyboard that promises to be my studio 'centrepiece'?
That's a dealbreaker.

You should read more carefully the specs… The SL mk3 is just a bit more expensive than the KSP (around 642 usd vs 549 usd) but it is a 8 tracks sequencer (with 8 arpeggiator and 8 split/layer zones) with a full size keyboard with aftertouch. Furthermore the aftertouch is assignable to anything. It also supports full template for any of the synth (hardware or software) you might want to control. And it integrates perfectly with Ableton Live.
The only drawback of the novation SL mk3 is the need of a power supply and the rather limited pattern chaining. So it might not be perfect but it surely has a better bang for the buck ratio than the KSP.

This. My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Record Pitch Bend Data into Sequences
Post by: cnps on November 10, 2021, 08:17:03 pm
And this too: https://gearspace.com/board/product-alerts-older-than-2-months/1347839-novation-announces-launchkey-mk3-firmware-update-v1-1-a.html

Novation announces Launchkey MK3 Firmware Update v1.1

Strike a chord with the new Strum Mode for Launchkey and Launchkey Mini

Intuitive and fully integrated, Novation’s Launchkey range offers essential MIDI keyboard controllers for all skill levels and it’s now seeing its first firmware update with v1.1.

Many of these new updates have been requests from the wider community of Novation product users, added to increase creativity and create an all-around improved experience using Launchkey products.

The firmware v1.1 update introduces the new Strum Mode feature for Launchkey Mini [MK3] and Launchkey [MK3]. It’s an easy-to-use inspirational tool to help ignite that creative spark and add an extra dimension to melody making. Users can hold down notes and trigger Strum Mode by using the mod strip on the Launchkey Mini [MK3], or by using the mod wheel on the Launchkey [MK3]. Strum Mode can also be used alongside other arpeggiator modes on Launchkey devices to really ramp up their musical imagination.

As well as the addition of Strum Mode, Launchkey Mini [MK3] will receive some extra updates with v1.1. These new updates incorporate some important and functional features that have been requested by the Novation community since we launched in September 2019. These updates include adjustable pad brightness, toggled pad velocity and toggled MIDI clock output, as well as a new double-tap shift function for arp and fixed chord modes that latches the shift button to enable one-handed control of shift-modified buttons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaQAaRejozk