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VAU

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Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« on: March 19, 2017, 10:16:18 pm »
If key hold is ON,  and i start an arp or a sequence, then the first note determines the velocity of all following.

Example:

I play a soft first note/chord, so the filters stays closed (or volume down etc)
Then i play another note/chord but no matter if hit soft or hard,
It will always play with the velocity of the first note/chord

You could see this as bug or feature,
I would love to have both,

Like it is now with "first note sets velocity as long as KEY HOLD is ON"

As well as  " you can play every new note/chord with its own velocity, even if KEY HOLD is ON"




VAU

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2017, 09:48:04 pm »
Nobody else noticed the velocity "lock" when keyhold is on?

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 11:05:13 pm »
I can confirm this.

I'd much prefer if the velocity was captured for each new note-on.

In addition I'd like each key in an arpeggio to capture a separate velocity. This is the way my other synths work and is essential for injecting life into arpeggios. I'll add it to my wishlist...

To be honest it looks like a bug or an oversight, not an intentional feature. Perhaps Arturia can comment?

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2017, 08:22:18 am »
Same here, no velocity sensitivity of the arp ... but it was not dependent from using the hold-key ... it was generally not there ... first key stroke defined the velocity of the entire arp sequence  :(

Checked with other synths and they accept velocities for each single step.

I would call this a bug and it would be a shame, if such an expressive synth wouldn't have velocities in the arp   ;)
« Last Edit: March 21, 2017, 08:24:45 am by SoundRider »

VAU

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2017, 08:44:50 am »
I think it's easy to fix, but - as said - it would be great to have both ways.

Maybe with a pedal the "velocity lock" could be activated, like everytime the pedal is pressed,
each new note has the same velo as the initial note.

As soon as the pedal is released, i can add notes with another velocity.



That would be a great thing

VAU

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2017, 05:42:18 pm »
Here is Arturia's answerand things make sense again:

"The key hold keeps the last note played properties:

- Note
- Velocity

- If you have the Key hold active and a sequence in background, this will define your sequence's notes low velocity range. So if it is 127, the accent will make no difference.

- If you press play on the SEQ:
The normal notes will be the low velocity notes.
The high velocity notes will be defined Accent function."

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2017, 01:23:40 pm »
Here is Arturia's answerand things make sense again:

"The key hold keeps the last note played properties:

- Note
- Velocity
...

OK, so it is supposed to hold not only the last note, but also the last velocity, as one would expect. I assume that the same is true for the arpeggiator then, with and without key hold engaged. I look forward to that appearing in a firmware release as the current bug/omission is limiting expression when using these techniques.

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Re: Feature or bug: velocity while key hold
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2017, 07:14:43 pm »
true, now that you say it...

as said before, i would love to see 2 modes:

one, where only the first note, the one  you start the sequnce or arpeggiator with, sets the velocity for all coming notes (so i don't have to worry when playing live)

(if this mode makes sense, as you could also just deactivate velocity in the matri then...)

and the other mode as we know it, each new note sets a new velocity


 

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