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Pol58

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Minilab MKII and Ableton
« on: January 14, 2017, 06:58:11 pm »
Hello
secular question:
How to configure Ableton Live to work with the MKII?.
Please help

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Leszek

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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2017, 06:54:27 pm »
Hi ePol58 , sorry for the loooong delay.
we just released a new firmware for the minilab mkII (1.0.9.83).
You can get it via our downloads page.

From there, 2 options :

- you wait for the official live 9.7.2 release, which will contain the minilab mkII script
- you join the ableton live beta campaign, a new beta should be out next week, and will contain the script.

Sorry it has been so long to make.
Thanks for your understanding.

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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 05:27:32 pm »
Hi, the 9.7.2b2 beta release came out yesterday. Do you have a manual with the mappings?

Thank you.

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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2017, 12:15:32 am »
Hi, Im on the new beta and have a few things to say:

When you are on mkii's memory slot 1, the remote script works as in the demo.

When you change the memory slot, it becomes super buggy, I submited a bug report:
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1. Steps to reproduce: Changing mkii memory (pressing shift+a pad) and changing it back to memory 1

Expected behaviour: I dont have information on how the device should work when using the different memories. It would be nice to have memory 1 as a control surface and memories 2-8 to use mkii as a regular MIDI controller with different configurations on each memory slot.

Observed behaviour: When on a memory slot different than 1, knobs 8 and 16 (which were used to navigate through scenes and tracks) stop working. Pads 1-8 keep working the same way (start/stop clip) and pads 9-16 do nothing).
When changing the memory slot back to 1, knobs 8 and 16 can navigate but in a super buggy way and get inverted. All pads work as they did when on a different memory slot than memory one (i.e. in a wrong way).

2. Yup, Im on latest beta

3. Current versions of Live dont include this new remote script



Also, I submited a suggestion (which I mention on the bug report): to use memory 1 as the control surface and keep using memories 2-8 as they used to work like different presets for the controller

It would be cool to have more info on how the remote script should work.

Anyways, this is a great product, I hope Arturia considers the feedback users give to have the ultimate mini midi controller

Cheers!


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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 04:24:11 pm »
Hi everyone, hope you're all fine.

To answer to your questions , here are some words about how does the minilab mkII midi remote script works with ableton Live.

remember you have to update your minilab mkII to fw 1.0.9.83 , available here : https://www.arturia.com/support/updates&manualsor directly in your midi control center.

you also have to be on Live 9.7.2 beta, which supports the minilab mkII . Official live 9.7.2 release is scheduled to be released somewhere in april.
For users who were complaining of the non- support of the script on live 9.6 versions, there should not be a problem to update their Live to current version, or join the ableton beta campaign.

so how does it work ?
Live writes the script inside minilab mkII memory 8 only, at the opening of Live or once your minilab mkII is set to control Live. The process is very fast, around 4 seconds.
Please note that if you stored something else inside memory 8, Live will overwrite this memory on each live opening.

Once set up in live preferences as a control surface ( Control surface : minilab mkII / Input and output : Arturia MiniLab mkII and in midi ports : minilab mkII input and output  track and remote on)
Quit prefs, switch on memory 8 ( with shift + pad 8) and you're ready to go !

now on memory 8 :
knob 8 will make you scroll live left / right
knob 16 will make you scroll up/down
knobs 1 to 4, and 9 to 12 will be linked to live device parameters
knobs 5-6 will make you control selected track send A/B
knob 13 will make you control selected track panning
knob 14 will make you control selected track output level
knobs 7 and 15 will make you control  Return A and B level

And what about pads?

Still on memory 8 , PAD 1 to 8 will make you control clips from 1 to 8

and how can i control clips?

Once your track is armed (can be done manually or automatically if you insert a virtual instrument in it) simply browse to the desired scene using minilab mkII knobs 8 and 16. Once Live cursor is placed on the right location, simply press the corresponding pad on your minilab mkII. As an example , midi track 1 is armed , Live cursor is well placed, if you press pad 1 , recording will start and your pad will light up red.
If you press pad 1 again, clip recording will stop, then start playing , and your pad will light up green.
After the insertion of a Virtual instrument , you can also do a double mouse-click on the desired clip location to edit all it’s settings, writing midi notes. Corresponding pad of your minilab mkII will light up yellow.
(please refer to Ableton Live manual, to learn more about midi clips settings)
Once your clip and notes are set, press the yellow pad on your minilab mkII, your clip will start and your pad will light up green. Once the clip is stopped, pad’s color will switch back to yellow.
Stopping your clip will depend of your clip settings, but you can’t stop it using pads of your minilab mkII by default. Please remember that Live transport buttons can be midi mapped to any pad of your minilab mkII

How can i control my virtual synth without interfering with Live controls?

No need to worry about that ! Insert your favorite synth to any track, switch on minilab mkII any memory between 2 and 7 (remember Memory 1 is reserved for controlling analog lab only). Once switched to the desired memory, you will control and map your synth parameters. If you want to get back on Live controls, simply switch back to memory 8.

Is there anyway to do some finger drumming with minilab mkII pads?

Sure ! Just load a drum rack on the desired track, switch on any minilab mkII memory between 2 and 7. You can then use pads 1 to 8 to create beats.
Again , if you want to switch back to live controls, simply switch to memory 8 on your minilab mkII



Hope to have answered to your questions,
feel free to come back to me if needed, sorry if i can't be as reactive as i would.

best,

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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 03:53:07 pm »
You can then use pads 1 to 8 to create beats.

Sorry to bump this thread but is there any way to have 16 pads to create beats, why only pads 1-8?

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Re: Minilab MKII and Ableton
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2018, 03:59:49 pm »
You can then use pads 1 to 8 to create beats.

Sorry to bump this thread but is there any way to have 16 pads to create beats, why only pads 1-8?

It's OK, I set up pads 9-16 as midi notes in a custom preset. All good.

 

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