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Title: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on February 23, 2015, 08:00:12 pm
hi.

So in the last few weeks my Arturia Software Centre has been asking me to update most of my Synths. Good news! Even the Mini V gets an update, for what I don't know but that was Arturia's first synth! But, poor old Spark 2 sits in the corner and looks at the floor asking… "Why not me?"

Even the old guys are getting licks of paint and Spark 2 doesn't even get a hello.

Are there plans to revisit Spark 2 and to clean up some of the bugs and fixes and workflow changes that desperately need doing?

Ben, Kevin, Seb, Adrien.. Yes, I'm looking at you :)

Thanks, Stuart

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: ben arturia on February 24, 2015, 10:44:32 am
Hi Stuart,

Don't worry Stuart.
We will work on Spark really soon. ;D
Spark will not sit in the corner much long !

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: rickygarni on February 24, 2015, 05:15:20 pm
Are these updates to fix bugs, or added features of some sort? Not that I am complaining about the features that already are there! I have the V Collection and Spark as well - curious -
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on March 04, 2015, 05:56:02 pm
Hi Stuart,

Don't worry Stuart.
We will work on Spark really soon. ;D
Spark will not sit in the corner much long !


Thanks Ben, look forward to it.

Thanks, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on April 28, 2015, 04:25:46 pm
Hi Ben, Kevin

Hope you are both well and enjoying Spring!

How are we getting on with Spark 2?

I've found a few things that would really help workflow. Apart from my mantra of more LCD feedback. Could we see some basic copy and paste action in the sequencer window in order to copy automation from one lane to another. If extending an 8 step beat to a 64 step beat, the ability to copy automation from all parameters. Or possibly a 'follow automation' so that you could have the cut off or resonance follow the pitch for example. This could be done by either flow or copy and paste.

Do you remember when I found the issue with the Pro Tools plug in, I have to install a previous version of the plug in otherwise I get a bank Spark 2 plug in window in Pro Tools. Do you have an update on this?

I have also found that certain parameters do not open when saving a Pro Tools session. For example, some drums do not play when you open a session with a saved Spark inside, you have to re open your saved Spark kit in order to 'refresh' the kit. Sometimes it even opens different sounds, It seems to happen randomly, there is no pattern (forgive the pun :) )

When editing in the Sequencer window the first drum pad is always selected when you open the sequencer, so you have to deselect it before editing and parameters. If you don't deselect nothing is editable. (A Small bug)

The file browser in the studio view seems to not work very seamlessly. (When you select a new instrument for each pad)
Sometimes nothing happens and sometimes you see multiple things selected even if you only have one layer in the sample. Meaning you can't tell which sound is being heard as you have multiple ticks on sounds. Perhaps a preference could be added to only show drums that relate to the sound being edited. For example if you are on a pad with a snare, only show snare sounds. Of course this could be turned on and off so you could add any drum on any pad if you wish. But when auditioning sounds it get a bit cluttered as there's not much space.

I still can't see a viable way of choosing individual sounds from the CDM hardware, It doesn't give you a lot of time to audition sounds before choosing the sound you are on. The slightest touch of the jog wheel seems to open the sound or kit.

Could the LCD show which view you are on in the library view, either kit, Projects etc. Also a preference to choose between endless scroll and A to Z and a way of going through each tab as we talked about over email.

One last thing. Scalable GUI. As with all other Arturia synths, the ability to make it bigger keeping the scale would be amazing. It's something that's been requested a fair bit over the forum.

Thanks, for listening

Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: jsmirk on April 28, 2015, 05:18:50 pm
Stuart, I like all your suggestions.  While I'm on LE instead of CDM, I put some thought into the workflow issues of Spark. Setting aside the bugs, I think it really boils down to a few main points about workflow and scope that could be improved, hopefully without a huge undertaking.  I’d be curious to know if these changes might help the workflow of others.

1) Reduce reliance on Main except for performance/grooving
Because use of Spark generally requires working heavily in the Sequencer and Studio/Mixer views, some key parts of Main should be placed in the global scope and viewable/modifiable from all views - perhaps in a top or side panel. These are P1, P2, P3, Tempo, Shuffle, Master Volume.  With these parameters available globally, there is no need to flip back to Main, especially to find out what the P1/P2/P3 knobs are mapped to before turning the wrong one and wrecking an instrument.

2) Merge Studio and Mixer

This is a biggie and one that would solve all kinds of workflow issues. The functionality here overlaps so much that the workflow would improve by combining them and having only one place to manage these parameters. Place the Sampler module and Parameter module above the Aux 1 and Aux 2 modules in Mixer, respectively.

2b) Implement drag & drop samples in the new Studio/Mixer

I assume most users are utilizing samples with Spark when building their own kits. Allowing drag and drop from an external OS source such as a Finder window would help remove the need to either switch to Main or to use the slow and cumbersome browse process which never returns the user to the last folder they navigated to. This further solidifies the usefulness of the Studio/Mixer view.

If 1 & 2 are done this way, Main becomes the view tailored to jamming and performing, which is great - it is isolated to a specific purpose.  Likewise, the consolidated Studio becomes the single view tailored to building and editing a kit and is not dependent upon any of the other views - it is isolated to a specific purpose.

3) What to do with Library?!

Ideally, Library would also live within the Studio view, making Studio the central place to set up a kit without constant screen switching. However, this would require larger overall gui dimensions to hold a left navigation area for browsing (Maschine does this nicely, for example).

I'm including a photoshopped version of the Studio interface as I've envisioned it above.  Hopefully it better illustrates what I'm describing and provides some fresh thought on Spark and a direction it could go.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on April 28, 2015, 09:08:00 pm
HI there, cheers

Spark is a lot of things to a lot of people. I would rather see the SW stripped down so that it's solid and reliable. Not that I don't like the features and requests, just I'd rather see a reliable solid bit of gear.

Same with the Hardware, for me the SW is moving far faster than the HW and the gap is getting bigger and bigger. For example, there was a huge decision taken a year or so ago to remove the jog wheel functionality, replacing with two handed key commands. This removed functionality of the biggest know on the CDM hardware. It took months of forum conversations and emails to bring it back, although it's not 100%, it's better than it was.

I use the HW more than the SW and although I do use the sequencer a fair bit, I rarely use the mixer. I mix in Pro Tools so as long as I have a decent level, I print the audio from Spark and mix in PT. I understand why there's a mixer but I don't need to use it.

I agree, there are many overlaps in the SW and combining a lot of windows could be possible. Although there's not enough room for what there is now, let alone combining windows, it would be a GUI mess.

Cheers, Stuart

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: ofpi on May 05, 2015, 06:33:40 pm
Yes , spark 2 needs some T.L.C. , so much potential!

Please keep ease of use as a priority. Too much complexity will make the power of this beauty get lost.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: dimapet on May 13, 2015, 02:04:04 pm
In the future I would like to update the changes in the colors of candles 2. In particular, this applies to the sequencer window. Absolutely no distinct transitions between bits, especially when on a computer screen to strong light falls. Also, if possible, a good addition to the difference in the speed of color accents.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 14, 2015, 10:56:19 pm
How is the update going? :)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: emmern on May 18, 2015, 09:20:02 pm
How's the updates? No progress???
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: jsmirk on May 20, 2015, 05:20:54 am
Waiting for obvious bugs to be fixed, let alone workflow improvements and new features...

...meanwhile, NI releases Maschine 2.3

Yes, sour grapes here.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on May 20, 2015, 12:12:58 pm
Which bug?

The Maschine 1 hardware was great, 2 not so great. There's sometimes a feeling that 'the grass is always greener' but all manufacturers of gear have issues.

Bugs have been fixed for an upcoming release, unfortunately I am not aware of a list, but an update is on it's way


Thanks, Stuart 
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 20, 2015, 02:45:48 pm
Hi ,There should be a new version soon .still needs testing but some of the nasty bugs should be fixed (i.e.: no sequencer data sent)


regards

Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 20, 2015, 08:35:39 pm
Thats good news for sure........

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 22, 2015, 06:42:53 pm
Quick update is that the  send midi sequencer problem is not solved yet .

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 22, 2015, 11:55:47 pm
 ???           Is there any plan of actually making a steady version of spark?
                 
             Otherwise whats the point of releasing new soundbanks  if you cant really use them in daw....
                           
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on May 23, 2015, 12:05:08 am
Quick update is that the  send midi sequencer problem is not solved yet .

I'm assuming this has been posted back to Kevin et al at Arturia so they can look at it and see what's up. 

@ mixalis

I'm assuming you know this, but the point of Apha & Beta testing is to pick up these little things that slip through the net :)


Cheers, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on June 02, 2015, 05:13:29 pm
One more thing that you should look out now that the update is close, is that every time i create a new project Spark creates a new copy of the instruments i choose to use in my project, even if i dont say so!

I end up having many instruments exacly the same with different numbers at the end 1, 2 ,3

Thank you
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mrfugu on June 05, 2015, 04:30:27 pm
One more thing that you should look out now that the update is close, is that every time i create a new project Spark creates a new copy of the instruments i choose to use in my project, even if i dont say so!

I end up having many instruments exacly the same with different numbers at the end 1, 2 ,3

Thank you

The old library was easier to manage in this respect. It had its own problems, but at least you could clean up this particular problem much more easily.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on June 05, 2015, 05:41:42 pm
One more thing that you should look out now that the update is close, is that every time i create a new project Spark creates a new copy of the instruments i choose to use in my project, even if i dont say so!

I end up having many instruments exacly the same with different numbers at the end 1, 2 ,3

Thank you

Hi, have you tried deleting any projects you don't use in the library and this will reduce the number of empty projects and instruments filling up your library

regards


terrym

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on June 06, 2015, 01:02:26 pm
Hi terrym... I dont want to delete any of my current projects..

I am just saying that a copy of the instruments is not necessary to happen by default..
   
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on June 08, 2015, 03:03:12 pm
There's just a specific way that you need to create and name new projects in Spark in order to eliminate the erroneous copies. Terry is pointing out that once you have saved as, you can delete the unwanted copies.


Cheers, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Rfaith on June 18, 2015, 12:09:58 am
Is there any plan of actually making a steady version of spark?

What do you mean by steady? No crashes in standalone or DAW, or something else?

My problem is not getting the external hardware to connect and getting the irritating message about MIDI ports needing to be deallocated (they all are, and it still won't work). If there was any change in Spark that would interest me, it'd be a stable and reliable connection to the hardware, whether by writing a bespoke driver rather than relying on Windows drivers (seems unwise to me to rely on something made by Microsoft to remain the same), or by forcibly taking over whatever ports it has a problem with.

Having a reliable connection to the hardware is key to the way this device should work, so my hopes are for a more solid interface as part of any new version.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on June 19, 2015, 01:14:57 pm
There's just a specific way that you need to create and name new projects in Spark in order to eliminate the erroneous copies. Terry is pointing out that once you have saved as, you can delete the unwanted copies.


Cheers, Stuart

Hi Stuart..Can you explain to me the specific way of getting this right?

Also there are 2 folders on the library - instruments- under the type selection that appeared and i did not create them..how can i delete them?
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Professa G on July 09, 2015, 11:13:21 pm
Any updates?
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on July 14, 2015, 02:00:20 pm
I'm fully aware that different synths are under different projects and therefore managed by different teams at Arturia, but another update to software synths which first appeared in 1999 and Spark is still waiting for updates that really should have been addressed in the last ,amor release.

Kevin, Adrien... Please could you give insight on when you expect updates to be released. I have asked the appropriate people to be part of beta testing but have yet to receive anything.

Spark is in danger of being forgotten about - I have since had a to move to another drum program in the meantime as I have work to complete and updates are less than forthcoming


Thanks, Stuart

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on July 14, 2015, 07:16:48 pm
Hi stuart, I have been told there should be an update in the next few weeks


regards


terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on July 14, 2015, 08:51:38 pm
Would you say that it's mostly a bug fix ?

Thanks, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on July 14, 2015, 09:14:23 pm
I don't know as I've not seen the beta. but I'm hoping they have fixed the send sequence data bug
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on July 14, 2015, 09:16:56 pm
There's just a specific way that you need to create and name new projects in Spark in order to eliminate the erroneous copies. Terry is pointing out that once you have saved as, you can delete the unwanted copies.


Cheers, Stuart

Hi Stuart..Can you explain to me the specific way of getting this right?

Also there are 2 folders on the library - instruments- under the type selection that appeared and i did not create them..how can i delete them?


Hi Mixtails, sorry i didn't see this.

Open a different project to the one you want to delete, and you should then be able to delete the projects you don't need. This will delete all instruments within that newly created project and therefore deleting "new_project_1" for example.

In the library tab, in projects you have a delete button on the bottom right.  (See pic)

You should also be able to delete these other libraries in this way, unless they are factory, in which case they cannot be deleted.

 Hope that helps

Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on August 04, 2015, 06:33:14 pm
I don't know as I've not seen the beta. but I'm hoping they have fixed the send sequence data bug

Any news?
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on August 04, 2015, 08:02:04 pm
Beta is currently being tested

So shouldn't be too log now

Thanks, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Beetlebum on August 12, 2015, 02:56:14 pm
Feature suggestion for SparkLE:

A switch to disable the scan for Spark hardware when first opening the software. If you're using Spark as a plugin, without hardware, this recurrent search is unnecessary and time consuming.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on August 12, 2015, 03:13:10 pm
this feature is already there the little button above the pref


regards


terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Beetlebum on August 15, 2015, 11:19:36 am
Thanks, but that icon just shows whether the controller is connected or not. If you click it, it will search again.

But you are correct that there is such a function, it is the disable 'controller detection' on the prefs page. I kept missing it because it doesn't fit in the standard window, and you have to scroll down to find it.

Silly me, never mind !

this feature is already there the little button above the pref


regards


terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on August 15, 2015, 11:31:43 am
Sorry forgot about the pref as I have it switched off and connect manually
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Beetlebum on August 17, 2015, 03:34:52 pm
No problem, thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on September 03, 2015, 02:58:57 pm
Arturia needsto hire more people for doing the work...Its so annoying that we havent seen an update for that amount of time!!

What is going on???
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on September 03, 2015, 03:44:03 pm
It's coming very soon
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on September 04, 2015, 01:17:51 pm
Just to be clear..My problem is with the company not with the developers or anyone else...
They should have hired more people with that amount of products they sell in 2015....
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: LaserDolphin on September 15, 2015, 12:39:10 am
Hi there, anyone check the Improvements Thread too? I really want to read some request´s about my long list of ideas from 10th August, 1 Month waiting for Feedbach umhhhh* ;)

But here is life...
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on September 15, 2015, 03:10:42 pm
Dont worry!  There are people in this forum that take a close look at those threads...Spark has been evolved enough and can still be better!
 It just needs more time now that arturia has all of those products......

Cheers
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: robman84 on September 20, 2015, 01:08:23 pm
Can I just check, is 2.1.1.890 the latest version? According to "My Arturia" it was released on September 14th 2015 and fixes the MIDI DAW stuff. Is this actually an older version that people are waiting for an upgrade for?

Thanks
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on April 11, 2016, 04:29:40 pm
V 2.2.0 Build 76, Rev 083dd85


This is the latest version I know of

Thanks, Stuart 
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on April 11, 2016, 06:06:54 pm
https://www.arturia.com/products/spark2/resources
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 09, 2016, 11:30:59 pm
Why was the jog wheel functionality removed? What I read about it in the (now rather outdated) manual, and several functions no longer exist; such as pressing down and scrolling the wheel to choose between project/kit/instrument/disk browsing, or using the wheel with tune mode, to change the range of the tuning, has been removed in "favor" of using the << and >> .... much slower workflow.

I look forward to the next update.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 11, 2016, 01:18:49 pm
Come on Arturia....Improve the basic stuff for workflow and basic improvements that are written all over the forum!   Bravo for the bug fixes last year but there are still some easy fixes that need to happen...

I have seen that you guys updated most of the products this month...Should we wait for a Spark update too??
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 11, 2016, 04:42:38 pm
I have seen that you guys updated most of the products this month...Should we wait for a Spark update too??

They did?  :o
I've been anxiously checking Arturia Software Center daily, waiting for the impending updates on their V-Synths. Nothing yet here.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 11, 2016, 04:52:09 pm
Hi yes new updates coming for all plugins including new ones .spark will be updated soon. so Arturia tell me.




Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 12, 2016, 01:08:41 pm
GREAT NEWS....... thank you!
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 12, 2016, 07:52:39 pm
Hi yes new updates coming for all plugins including new ones .spark will be updated soon. so Arturia tell me.

Terrym

.... and now the dreaded question: Got any sort of timeline? even vague? .... the video I saw with the "unveiling" of the updated Mini V seemed to indicate they'd be out within a couple months .. so by June or so?  8)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 12, 2016, 08:14:22 pm
I Cant say but testing is almost over for all plugins. except spark!



Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on May 13, 2016, 10:01:33 am
Can you tell us what to expect? Any workflow improvements?
  Fingers crossed they added screen feedback in all pages, note feedback in tune mode!
I want to be confident that the more simple issues will. Be gone

Cheers

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 13, 2016, 08:31:08 pm
Just to confirm spark has not been updated yet!




Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 13, 2016, 09:23:21 pm
I Cant say but testing is almost over for all plugins. except spark!

Terrym

Awesome. Thanks. :)

Just to confirm spark has not been updated yet!

Terrym

So do you think things we talk about here still have potential of being addressed when Spark is updated? That would be awesome. I was thinking it was too late in the process for them to look at things. ... Spark is awesome, but certainly needs some work. .. I've considered installing the old version that came with my CDM, since it seems to have some useful features lacking in Spark2

Anyhow, thanks for the news Terrym. Good to hear there's progress.  8)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 23, 2016, 07:57:17 am
One more thing that you should look out now that the update is close, is that every time i create a new project Spark creates a new copy of the instruments i choose to use in my project, even if i dont say so!

I end up having many instruments exacly the same with different numbers at the end 1, 2 ,3

Thank you

This SERIOUSLY need to be addressed. My Instruments tab is filling up with useless copies, and is now hard to browse. I've got more copies of instruments in there than actual instruments I've created!!! It's ridiculous.
Just because I've loaded a kit into a new project and tweaked a few settings on the instruments of that kit, within the project, does NOT mean I want these saved as new instruments. HECK!! Even if I DON'T tweak any of the instruments, Spark STILL insists on saving a new copy of the instrument. COME ON!!!
My Instruments tab is a mess, and now difficult to browse for what I'm ACTUALLY looking for.
I've deleted projects I don't care about, so yeah, THOSE instruments are gone. But with every new project I start, more and more useless copies of pre-existing instruments get added.

Also, after this recent update to V5 with the instruments, I fear that Arturia is going to charge us for an update to Spark2. :\ .... this ON TOP OF paying to update the V4 instruments would be intolerable ... I'll just quote Q-Bert, who said, "*#$%&@(!"
All I'm sayin is that they damn well better not!! There's some serious outstanding bugs and issues (such as what I just mentioned) that need to be addressed here, for current owners of the software, WITHOUT having to pay for the much-needed and long-awaited fixes. I don't care if Arturia has had to re-code Spark from the ground up to address the outstanding issues in Spark2. They can make their money off new users, not those of us who have been waiting forever for updates and bug fixes. ... like, the Modular screen. Great potential, but every freakin time you switch away from that screen and go back, it has re-arranged all your items into a gobbledy-gook mess again. The sampler can .. well ... load and play samples on several layers, but that's about it. We can't adjust the velocities to trigger different samples, we can't actually drag-n-drop samples into the sampler, we can't even preview any of the samples in any given sample slot.

For the most part, Spark2 with my CDM controller is fricken awesome. I pretty much don't use any other drum tools anymore -- except to make new samples to load into Spark2. There's some nasty issues tho. No show-stoppers, but still, we deserve to have them fixed, and Arturia has kept saying, "Updates are coming," for a long long time now.

SO!! What's the word here? And please, be honest; don't pour salt in my coffee and tell me it's sugar.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: jeffikovski on May 25, 2016, 01:27:35 pm
I think they will fix some issues, if we are lucky may be they implement some workflow improvments and then charge us for an update/upgrade the way they did with V-Colletion 4 users.
The most frustrating thing is that Spark 2 since it's release was never really bugfree. And it's sill not.
Hey Arturia!!!! Have a decency to fix everything first and then charge for some new features !!!!!
You know like Steinberg's Cubase. They release Cubase 8.5, an update you have to pay for.
But for users of Cubase 8.0 they release an update which fixes the bugs, which are adressed in 8.5 without new features
That's fair.
To charge for new WORKING and bugfree features (new WORKING sampler, new WORKING modular environment, new WORKING preset management system) is fair.
 To charge for obvious bugfixes (you know, things simply working as intended), which were simply never adressed since software release is not fair.   
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on May 26, 2016, 05:24:30 am
Just watched an interview with Glen Darcey of Arturia, by Flux302 of Fluxwithit.com, on youtube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A4k34haEIc )
Spark is getting worked on. They just didn't have enough time or workforce to do it for V Collection 5. There was no mention if Spark is being dropped from V Collection and made into a separate product tho.
I didn't realize that Arturia only consists of like 30 people :O .. ... I for one could cut 'em some more slack then, considering all they've got going on between hardware and software. They're juggling a lot of balls. ;)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on June 01, 2016, 04:39:18 pm
I really cant wait to see what they are going to do with Spark.....If anyone has any info about the update please post...... :)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: jeffikovski on June 07, 2016, 03:44:36 pm
Unfortunately update doesn't include any substantional changes
Just minor Bug Fixes and small improvement
Very frustrating :

Spark2 release notes
V 2.3.0
Features

*User can import and export presets with iSpark
Fixed Bugs

    No more crashes when hitting Tape 8 slicer multiple times
    Original project maintained when exporting projects that include AIFF samples without the .aiff extension

Improvement

    Factory samples are included in project export

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on June 07, 2016, 08:32:43 pm
This? THIS is an update?  ???
<sigh>
C'mon Arturia. What's the REAL status and situation with Spark2.
Please tell us right now if your intention is to charge us for a REAL update. If so, I'll have to start saving up. I sure hope you don't tho, because Spark2 really needs some fixing. Fixing that all current owners of the software deserve to have without charge.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on June 07, 2016, 10:41:10 pm
Come on Arturia....Improve the basic stuff for workflow and basic improvements that are written all over the forum!   Bravo for the bug fixes last year but there are still some easy fixes that need to happen...

I have seen that you guys updated most of the products this month...Should we wait for a Spark update too??


The jog wheel works fine for me just press the select button while moving the wheel to change from kits or projects /instruments .
As to the tune mode its just as easy to change the tune using arrow buttons as you can still play the range on the pads.

regards

Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on June 08, 2016, 12:44:06 am
The only way I can switch between the Library sections is if I am actually looking at the library screen in the software, then using the Select+Jog Wheel. This is contrary to what the manual says.
Using the Jog Wheel to change range in Tune Mode would be much quicker than repeated hitting the << and >> buttons. Those buttons work, but it's inefficient, plus it didn't use to be that way -- as per the manual. Seeing as the functionality was previously there, it was non-sensical to completely remove it in favor of the << and >> buttons. BOTH options should be available.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Wookiee on June 20, 2016, 06:15:06 pm
Those who have updated did you do it via the ASC?  I keep getting an error even though it looks like the file has download correctly size wise.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on June 21, 2016, 10:50:44 pm
Hi go to your download folder you can find it in the setting of the ASC  find the spark down load and install it if it fails to install you know its a bad download . but i think its just the Asc at fault.


terrym

Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: masi on July 07, 2016, 10:07:22 pm
Please tell us right now if your intention is to charge us for a REAL update. If so, I'll have to start saving up. I sure hope you don't tho, because Spark2 really needs some fixing. Fixing that all current owners of the software deserve to have without charge.
Why do you expect any fixes for Spark 2? I guess this version has been abandoned just like the rest of the Synth Collection 4.

Masi
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on September 27, 2016, 04:10:57 pm

The jog wheel works fine for me just press the select button while moving the wheel to change from kits or projects /instruments .
As to the tune mode its just as easy to change the tune using arrow buttons as you can still play the range on the pads.

regards

Terrym


It works, as in it moves. But it's A, very slow to react. B, sensitive and easy to open kits that aren't needed, and C, needs two hands to scroll through the plethora of menus. Which even then it does't do that successfully. 

Once a kit has been opened, it stays on the library. Why do we want that to happen? It should ideally return to the screen you were on or return to the main GUI.

It also only works for one action, whereas on the software you have two actions (either side of the large jog whee itself). This used to work in a previous version but has since been removed for whatever reason.

Stuart



   
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on September 27, 2016, 04:15:49 pm
The only way I can switch between the Library sections is if I am actually looking at the library screen in the software, then using the Select+Jog Wheel. This is contrary to what the manual says.
Using the Jog Wheel to change range in Tune Mode would be much quicker than repeated hitting the << and >> buttons. Those buttons work, but it's inefficient, plus it didn't use to be that way -- as per the manual. Seeing as the functionality was previously there, it was non-sensical to completely remove it in favor of the << and >> buttons. BOTH options should be available.


It's true that the jog wheel could be used for lots of actions, it the biggest freakin' knob on the board for one which draws our eyes to it, meaning it also draws our hand to it by default. The fact it only does 1 thing, and at that not very well is somewhat baffling.

Stuart

 
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on October 13, 2016, 12:21:27 pm
It's true that the jog wheel could be used for lots of actions, it the biggest freakin' knob on the board for one which draws our eyes to it, meaning it also draws our hand to it by default. The fact it only does 1 thing, and at that not very well is somewhat baffling.

Stuart

Rather! ;)

And now that they've announced the Drum Brute, I fear for the future of the Spark software ... as in abandonment, like their Origin hybrid synth.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on October 13, 2016, 11:54:48 pm
Sadly, perhaps now Spark is dead.

Drumbrute is, after all exactly what spark should have been but with real sounds. A more hands on less 'look at a computer' experience
 
But this is the evolution of a company and it's ideas, you can't knock that.

Thanks, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on October 19, 2016, 11:42:03 am
I would have answered to this topics if i worked for Arturia!     :-X :-X
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: vadesriux on November 08, 2016, 12:08:07 pm
Any news on SparkLE being discontinued or not ?

And can someone explain why the Spark2 update is so long waited ?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: timvdh on November 08, 2016, 11:23:01 pm
I would also like to know if there will be a "V Collection 5" style update for the SparkLE (or other Spark breed, willing to pay for upgrade) software, I am especially interested in support for high resolution monitors.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on November 08, 2016, 11:49:45 pm
Spark was taken out of the V collection as of Version 5.

Thanks, Stuart
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: timvdh on November 09, 2016, 12:39:09 am
I am aware of that. I am not looking for an updated SparkLE as part of the V Collection, but rather for un update of the standalone SparkLE. The user interfaces of the V Collection 5 instruments were quiet a leap forward for high resolution monitors. When working with Spark, the user interface is actually even more important than it is when using the instruments plus Spark - with its step input, mixers, instrument editor and so on, would benefit a lot from an enhanced user interface for high resolutions. It would be a shame if Spark would stop where it is with the small, cramped UI.
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: stuey on November 09, 2016, 12:45:38 am
Right, ok. You mean an interface change bringing it in-line with all the other apps.

Probably the reason it was pulled form the V collection in the first place was that they did't want to do that. I have Brass from Arturia which has;t been updated in years. I fear that Spark may go that way, or they may update it, who knows, only Arturia I imagine.

Stuart   
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on November 11, 2016, 06:39:32 pm
Arturia's silence on this issue is deafening, and disheartening
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on November 11, 2016, 06:50:46 pm
Hi all . I asked Arturia in June about spark and its future but didn't get much response as
All the staff where busy with projects but I was told at the time they did not have time to fix sparks bugs . So yesterday I asked  the original arturia developer who I worked with on the first spark to shed some light on the subject. When I get a reply I will let you guys know . I'm a big fan of spark and spent many hours on it testing and playing . So I know who frustrating the bugs are .
You are aware there was a small update this year so if you missed it, please update.
Also Drumbrute is not a replacement for spark. We may see a better version with better sampling
In the future . This all depends if arturia feels wee the users want to buy it.
Regards

Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on November 12, 2016, 09:13:46 pm
Thanks Terrym :)
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on November 28, 2016, 12:36:49 pm
Hi all . I asked Arturia in June about spark and its future but didn't get much response as
All the staff where busy with projects but I was told at the time they did not have time to fix sparks bugs . So yesterday I asked  the original arturia developer who I worked with on the first spark to shed some light on the subject. When I get a reply I will let you guys know . I'm a big fan of spark and spent many hours on it testing and playing . So I know who frustrating the bugs are .
You are aware there was a small update this year so if you missed it, please update.
Also Drumbrute is not a replacement for spark. We may see a better version with better sampling
In the future . This all depends if arturia feels wee the users want to buy it.
Regards

Terrym


Hi Terrym! Thanks for asking........ Did you get any reply so far by the way?
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on January 09, 2017, 06:33:25 pm
Namm is very close now...should we wait a little something for spark now??
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on January 09, 2017, 07:30:30 pm
Hi, so an update on spark is that there is no development at the moment for spark, i do not know when or if an update will come so the head of the dev team tells me.  Personally i think Arturia maybe working on spark 3 or something better. As a hint from glen Darcy on a video on the tube discussed. But if they are it will not be out for some time yet . This is only a guess and not inside information.



Terrym
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: mixalis on January 09, 2017, 08:17:58 pm
I see.... thanks for the answer anyway! I don't think they will drop the spark project as well... it's a good hit so far
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on February 11, 2017, 02:01:31 pm
Hi, so an update on spark is that there is no development at the moment for spark, i do not know when or if an update will come so the head of the dev team tells me.  Personally i think Arturia maybe working on spark 3 or something better. As a hint from glen Darcy on a video on the tube discussed. But if they are it will not be out for some time yet . This is only a guess and not inside information.



Terrym
>:( >:( >:( GAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!  ??? ??? ???
VERY disheartening. They're coming up with all this new hardware, and ignoring this piece of software which really has potential, but is riddled with bugs.
C'mon Arturia, get on the ball here!!! >:(
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: silikonanswer on May 19, 2017, 09:34:51 pm
So no more updates. I love the Spark controller, what a pity
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Terrym on May 19, 2017, 10:26:53 pm
Me too
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on June 04, 2017, 09:44:46 pm
reposting in several related threads.

HEY!  :o
I think there may be some progress to report.
On a Facebook post (well, many posts) by Arturia, I've asked what's up with Spark 2, and pointed out that if they're discontinuing it, then why are they still selling SparkLE with the buggy Spark 2 software.
Well, I just got this response -- however, I don't know how legit it is.
It's from a Frederic Brun, who said:
"Hi, you have a legitimate point. We will run a full analysis of the situation and, minimum, correct bugs. I cannot give any delivery date but Kevin Molcard, our director of software, will gather data and build a plan in the next couple of weeks."

So maybe the squeaky wheel got the grease here? Let's hope so.  ;D
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: silikonanswer on June 04, 2017, 10:34:00 pm
Thanks for posting!! Fantastic news  :D
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: 019297 on June 07, 2017, 02:53:29 am
Spark 2, i think may be a bit of a sleeper hit, and people are coming around to checking it out finally. I got it in 2014, and there was nobody talking about it at all. Crickets. Maybe people are sick of Maschine. I hope Spark gets some love, or at least a few quick bug fixes. Fix the IOS version jog wheel please!
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Dev79 on June 22, 2017, 07:22:03 am
I'm excited for a Spark update... even just bug fixes & tweaks would be great
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: Krzysztof on July 21, 2017, 06:28:21 pm
I'm excited for a Spark update... even just bug fixes & tweaks would be great

Yes please.

KS
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: silikonanswer on July 21, 2017, 06:50:39 pm
No news?
Title: Re: Where are Spark 2 updates?
Post by: artao on July 21, 2017, 06:56:49 pm
Well, no SOLID news, no.
However, I did personally have an interaction with an Arturia representative on their Facebook page awhile back, after I had repeatedly pointed out that they're still selling the SparkLE with buggy software, and that we AT LEAST deserved a bug fix update. The representative agreed, and said the devs were looking into what they could do.
That said, PLEASE report bugs and other issues so they know what sort of things we, the users, are experiencing that need to be fixed or updated.
I started a dedicated thread about this, here >> https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=90964.0

Thanks! Let's hold out hope, eh?  8)
Also, reference this thread regarding such >> https://forum.arturia.com/index.php?topic=90230.0