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Title: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on April 05, 2012, 11:45:42 pm
The minibrute release date listed on Arturia's website is still for April 2012. There's all kinda of rumors going around on forums that the release date may have been pushed back to late May...

Wondering if anyone at Arturia can silence this speculation?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on April 06, 2012, 04:46:25 pm
My dealer told me the 1 week of may but probably it will take longer I think.
GRRRR !!!!!!!!
This really hurts!
I hoped it was available mid april.
Please Arturia please,hurry,surprise us with an earlier date.
Can't wait till may I going to molest some bitches here!!
WhaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: KAO99 on April 06, 2012, 06:03:23 pm
I ordered from Guitar Center, they said I'd get the thing EARLY JULY.

...something is up
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on April 06, 2012, 06:44:29 pm
Yeah,huh,why not? :o
Sorry for my previous post with the bitches etc...
But you guy's are driving me mad from namm 2012 till now (April).
I will go to my doctor and get some tranquilizers because another month or two or three??
Oh no  >:(
Three months no way.
After two months I'm on CNN for organizing a heist on Arturia factory.
GET THAT MTHFCKNG SYNTH IN THE SHOPS !!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOWWWWW!!!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: stevek109 on April 09, 2012, 04:12:24 pm
Preordered my MiniBrute in March. The dealer had announced the MiniBrute would be shipping in April. I checked with my dealer recently about the shipping date. The shipping date has been estimated to be in May. I'm ok with the date as long as I get my MiniBrute before summer.  :-\
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on April 13, 2012, 06:04:23 pm
Damn. I preordered with Musicians Friend back in January, then cancelled my preorder with them to get one from JRR because they said I would still get one of the first shipment of units. Just got an email from them stating late May to early July. Early July?! I was hoping to make an album by the spring.

Oh well. Arturia's made a huge fan of me either way. I appreciate the direct feedback in the other thread. It's not surprising that there are growing pains associated with the first hardware product, and I imagine they're making every effort to accomodate their customers as quickly as they can without compromising quality.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Steve Morley on April 28, 2012, 12:02:39 am
Any more news on the release date? Since ordering the delivery date has changed twice already.
Was hoping to use it on an album we just started working on but it's not looking likely now:(
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on April 30, 2012, 06:02:32 pm
I'm sorta surprised the manual's not up yet... Getting antsy :)
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on April 30, 2012, 06:27:55 pm
I'm also was expecting the minibrute in April to use it in a record and now we have to wait another month?
I promised myself to not wait any longer if the release date was moved.
So now I will have to go for another synthesizer.
It's a shame!
No minibrute for me ..
I will buy something else.
Shame on you Arturia!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on April 30, 2012, 08:28:12 pm
No shame in shooting for excellence. Arturia underestimated the demand. By all reports they haven't fallen down anywhere else. I find this amazing and I have so much respect for the company right now. Filip, for $500 I don't think you'll find anything that can compare. Just wait! It will be worth it!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: sporophore on May 01, 2012, 09:04:17 am
So I have just seen the minibrute release date has been pushed back to the 30th may.
Somehow I doubt that last night it just dawned on them that they have missed the date they set. It would have been a lot more professional in my opinion to change the date as soon as they knew they were not going to make the deadline. Whats to say now we wont get to the 31 of may and the date get pushed back again? Obviously this dynamic could go on for a long time......... :(
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Fnord on May 28, 2012, 03:27:20 pm
This is quite confusing. Alot of people complain that the release date is moved to mid-July, but all the retailers (and Arturia?) still seem to stick to May 30. Could this be an areal difference? Most of the people mentioning July seem to be from United States, while I'm located in Europe.  ???
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 28, 2012, 06:38:47 pm
I'm not happy with this situation!
The only info we have is from the Arturia website = available 30 may .
What does that mean?
30 May it's in the shops?
30 May they start sending it to the shops?
30 May we fool you again and 5 day's later the website will show 30 of June?
And then another unsolved question ,is Arturia going to send it from the U.S. on 30 May.Or from France?
That's a big difference !
If you(like me) live in Europe and they have to send it from U.S. or Maybe(who knows) China?
Than I will have it in July?
Another unsolved question,is every shop going to get it on the same time or not?
I can't imagine that some German people is playing it an that people in the Netherlands and Belgium sit and wait for it while other people are having fun with it.(if that's going to be the case world war 3 will start).
I hope Arturia is sending enough the first wave so that everybody that pre ordered in the shops will have their minibrute.
I'm starting to get really disappointing in Arturia.
They better called it  ? in place of the minibrute.
Another question,the manual ,it would be great to look into the manual,it would solve a lot of questions,like example = you can sync the lfo to the arp,but can you sync the arp to the bpm/clock of a sequencer like your DAW and than the most important,will it work fine ????
I want to know this because I experienced with other analog gear that syncing lfo to a DAW not always works like synth companies are promising (little/slim phatty).
A reaction from Arturia on these questions from me and other people here would be in place.
Give us something more than a release date because with a release date we still don't know when we will have it in our shops or homes.
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
 :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ??? >:( >:( >:( >:( :o >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 28, 2012, 06:48:02 pm
Another question,do we have to let it warm up (like some other analog synths)before we could play it????
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: sporophore on May 28, 2012, 08:15:02 pm
I pre ordered mine in february I think and have been pretty disappointed with the communication from arturia thus far. I understand that new products have teething issues and I do want it to be perfect when it does finally arrive. The thing that does get me really annoyed is the poor poor communication from arturia regarding the release date. If they know the 30th may is not going to happen then just bloody say it instead of misleading and annoying your customers. The only thing I can think is that arturia know they have a quality product and really dont care what we think because they know it will sell anyway.
Im based in the uk and the company I have bought it from have given me the date of 1st june which would make sense really.  I sure hope I have my minibrute here by the 1st of june and I dont have to complain here yet again. I also hope that the customer service from arturia in case of a fault is a hell of a lot better than the communication anybody has received here on this forum. Ok rant over :-)
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 28, 2012, 09:57:00 pm
+1 for sporophore.
I have read a post somewhere that they are doing it for economic reasons,well let me tell you that they are making a big mistake if that is why they are holding it back for so long.
Here in Belgium people get vacationmoney in May and believe me in June they have spend their money on other stuff ,so if the minibrute comes out in half june  a lot of people wasted their money on other stuff.
For me personally I have the possibility to buy gear with a 10 percent discount from a dealer (10 day action till 6 june) and another dealer is doing an outlet week next week with nice discounts.
So if I don't get a sign from Arturia before 1 june my money is going to another synth company!
This forum looks like dead.
I hope that in the future there is more life here on this forum and that Arturia will give feedback on our questions.
 :'(
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: dexfx69 on May 28, 2012, 11:01:57 pm
I've sent a tech support request asking if the May 30 date is still the ship date. I'll update this post once I get a response.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Koshdukai on May 29, 2012, 12:11:07 am
Another question,do we have to let it warm up (like some other analog synths)before we could play it????
I think, like a true (modern) analog, it'll stabilize a couple of minutes after it's turned on. I've seen a comment saying so somewhere on the net (or a demo video) from someone that has/had one of the demo units
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 29, 2012, 09:56:58 pm
WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ??? ::)
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 29, 2012, 09:58:44 pm
RELEASE IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: sporophore on May 29, 2012, 11:47:17 pm
And dont forget to bundle a free soft synth with it for deceiving us!!!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: dexfx69 on May 30, 2012, 03:13:43 am
I've sent 2 support requests to Arturia re: is it still the May 30 release date, and no reply in a few days so far. Either they're too busy shipping the MiniBrutes, or they're hiding in shame to avoid bad PR, trying to hide the possibility that the ship date has been pushed forward yet again.

Here's hoping for the best!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: dexfx69 on May 30, 2012, 03:23:15 am
OK, so BAD NEWS folks.

I just spoke to Musicians Friend, to verify their date of shipping on the MiniBrute, and their internal date to receive the first batch is early JULY. BUMMER!  >:(

I wish Arturia would be more honest and transparent about release dates. They are pissing off more than one potential buyer. Great product, but a major bungle on the release date debacle.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on May 30, 2012, 05:00:53 am
I imagine May 30 is the release date that Arturia ships. They are located in France, so I suppose it is taking a couple of weeks to get to MF etc and get on the shelves. I don’t think Arturia is being dishonest with their release date.

I was told by JRR shop that they will get their shipment late May/Early July. So this seems in line with the MF date. I think it’s a North America vs Europe thing.

Most of the hassle regarding release dates has not come from Arturia, but from retailers giving us crazy expectations like late February. Please have some patience. If you’re in North America, and you preordered early, I think it’s safe to presume you will have this before August. I wouldn’t resign yourself to anything beyond that.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 30, 2012, 10:14:59 am
Zedius ,On the release date on the Arturia website was April,also on Namm they told everybody April.
You can't blame the shops for telling their customers April.
The communication of Arturia sucks hard.
I don't like this!
If I don't have it in 3 day's I'm buying another synth.
So now Arturia can release it faster because they have to made 1 less.
Even still no Manual?
What is this for a sick joke !
Goodby! >:(
F you Arturia!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Koshdukai on May 30, 2012, 11:26:39 am
Zedius ,On the release date on the Arturia website was April,also on Namm they told everybody April.
You can't blame the shops for telling their customers April.
The communication of Arturia sucks hard.
I don't like this!
If I don't have it in 3 day's I'm buying another synth.
So now Arturia can release it faster because they have to made 1 less.
Even still no Manual?
What is this for a sick joke !
Goodby! >:(
F you Arturia!

You know that there's always a more patient buyer waiting for "your" Minibrute, don't you? ;) No Minibrute will be homeless, that's for sure.
I'm also expecting a 30% backlash of n00b buyers not knowing what to do or how to take advantage of the Minibrute features, dumping it on eBay 1 month or 2 weeks later, so even those won't be homeless for long ;)

About the shipping dates, Arturia changed it once, from April to the end of May and that's it. I wouldn't be surprised if they had to change it again to the end of June due to all the current pressures on shipping/logistics and manufacturing issues the electronics industry in China is going through at this moment.

A lot of retailers "played" with unreal release dates. Some even referenced February! ...Arturia has nothing to do with those claims.

Also, if you think straight, you know deep inside that rushing the release of the Minibrute will end up in a lot of complaints and returned units with manufacturing defects due to the rushed Quality Control process.

Insight and patience is a good quality.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Steve Morley on May 30, 2012, 12:49:06 pm
It is all good and well to understand the logistics and hope the time that delays have created is used to warrant a high quality product. But you can't deny that advertising a product that keeps being delayed by either the manufacturer or the retailers is not a great idea as you risk putting people off the product. Virtually every music shop has advertised this synth from the day it was announced meaning that Arturia must have given them some indication the release was near. Otherwise said shops would not waste their time as the product (like for example the Waldorf Stromberg) might not make it to full production.

I also think Arturia should handle their PR much better, inform people better and publish things like a manual in advance. It's not like they still have to write it (well I hope LOL).
It is vital with a product like this, a first real analog synth, to build trust with your potential clients. Delays and spars information is not achieving that.

Like many others I have pre-ordered a Minibrute, not because I like a new toy but simply because I need more variation in my sound palette at an affordable price to finish a few albums this year. By doing so I show my trust in the company and expect them to at least be upfront about any delays and reasons...not too much to ask I think....

Let's hope this release date is going to be honoured and the product rocks...if not I will have to withdraw my pre order and get something else as productions need to get finished. I don't have the luxury of telling record labels the product is delayed again....
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Koshdukai on May 30, 2012, 01:10:13 pm
Let's hope this release date is going to be honoured and the product rocks...if not I will have to withdraw my pre order and get something else as productions need to get finished. I don't have the luxury of telling record labels the product is delayed again....
Yes, I agree, all good points.

I've been mentioning for a while that Arturia really needs a dedicated full time team (or an extra person) solely dedicated to social/PR, taking care of the company "face" among its customers, users and prospect buyers, getting back to customer requests and looking out for delays on Technical reports on a timely fashion.

Even if some of the issues are a tough nut to crack and/or there's so much requests that isn't currently possible, at least sending a reply 24hrs explaining why there's a delay would be appreciated and reassuring to some (not all, of course) of their (new) users.

About the release dates... well, only a few companies have refined that art to pure exact science and are able to state and comply with the date they initially made public.

Maybe Arturia will become one of those in the future ;)   ...until then, I can honestly say I'm ok with trading sliding shipping dates for quality (extremely important on non-firmware upgradable hardware products, like analog synths).
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 30, 2012, 01:24:01 pm
Again,from the start they showed on the website Available in April.
Also on Namm the Arturia people are telling everybody April.
That changed in May to AVAILABLE 30 May.
Today is 30 May .
And it's not AVAILABLE!
Here's the defenition for the people that don't know what available means =

a·vail·a·ble  (-vl-bl)
adj.
1. Present and ready for use; at hand; accessible: kept a fire extinguisher available at all times.
2. Capable of being gotten; obtainable: a bedspread available in three colors.
3. Qualified and willing to serve or assist: a list of available candidates; was not available for comment.
4.
a. Chemistry Capable of being used in a chemical reaction: available electrons.
b. Botany Present, as in soil, and capable of being used by plants as a nutrient: available water; available minerals.
5. Archaic
a. Capable of bringing about a beneficial result or effect.
b. Law Valid. Used especially of a plea.

Especially nr. 3 of this list of definitions is why I'm angry now!
Till today we never get any serious information from Arturia about the date when it should be Available or the questions about releasing the manual on this website.
Mails send to support are not answered and the mails that do get answered are useless.

This is such a bad start ,I don't trust this any longer !
I'm buying other gear.
I will never buy a minibrute !
This is how I am.
If a restaurant needs tomatoes and a shop don't have any, the restaurant will buy their tomatoes somewhere else.


Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Steve Morley on May 30, 2012, 01:29:56 pm
I totally agree they need to work on their PR a bit, expanding the team would be an option I guess.

You have a valid point that with a product like this they have to get it right from the start as you don't have the luxury of updates/upgrades. I personally think most of us get a little nervous because there is no explanation about the nature of the delay which make you wonder if the product is actually going to be what they claim. Too often manufacturers make claims that are not met at all once the final product hits the shops.
I also think that normally with a product like this at such a low price you don't expect too much, but the videos going around create IMO high expectations.

I think we can all agree that is this synth is as good as it looks and sounds from those videos Arturia have a hit in their hands:)
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Steve Morley on May 30, 2012, 01:40:17 pm
Again,from the start they showed on the website Available in April.
Also on Namm the Arturia people are telling everybody April.
That changed in May to AVAILABLE 30 May.
Today is 30 May .
And it's not AVAILABLE!

Unfortunately you can read this in a few ways:

1) available to the distribution partners around the world
2) available AT the distribution partners around the world
3) available for retailers to order/be stocked from the distribution
4) available from the shops.

It clearly isn't option 4 so it can still be any of the first 3.....

Unless Arturia states the product is available from all shops on 30 May 2012 they have not done anything wrong in that sense.

The shop I pre ordered from have informed me I should receive mine on 06/06....(UK). This is probably because of the double bank holiday which other countries don't have so they might have it earlier.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: sporophore on May 30, 2012, 02:33:27 pm
My biggest (but not only) worry is this. I finally receive my minibrute.a few months down the line it develops some fault and I need advice or assistance from arturia. After repeated emails no answer from them and I am stuck with a synth that is faulty. I really hope that is not the case but I totally agree with all the angry people and I believe that like me you are not so much angry that it has been delayed (we want it to be perfect eh?!), but the fact that after repeated questions from customers they say nothing. This is just wrong in my opinion and if you want to develop a loyal customer base then you have to look after them and not constantly lie about release dates to keep the preorders coming in. I really want my minibrute and I am willing (though not happy) to wait, because I know it is going to be a quality and unique synth with a very unique sound. All I really want is to feel that arturia value my custom enough to actually take 5 mins out and let us know the score,rather than posting minibrute vids on fb etc to try and get more preorders.
Sorry to keep going on but all they need to do is say its not going to be ready very sorry for the bad info (and heres a free soft synth to keep you sweet ha ha :-))
I really think its going to be a future classic and at that price what else are you going to get realisticallly. I know we are angry and its their own fault but I think by cancelling my preorder I would be cutting off my nose to spite my face.
So come on arturia five minutes of your time to let us know whats going on please thats all its going to take to keep me happy :-)
Ok rant over again, as you were :-D
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 30, 2012, 02:40:03 pm
In one of the great movie's that's going around an interviewer asked when it will hit the shops,the employee of Arturia says APRIL.
I can't believe they leave us here on this forum without any reaction from Arturia.
Just ordered another slim phatty.
It has 2 oscillators and preset save :)
I'ts buggy and the Mg support is not super but better than what I experienced with Arturia.
Bought spark and I had a question for support and five or six day's later they answered it with an useless explanation .
And most important I have it.
I hope for you guy's the minibrute will be a piece of quality otherwise it would be a big disappointment.
The thing I fear with the minibrute is the midi sync with daw and arpeggiator-lfo.
If that is not working fine with al midi equipment the minibrute will be useless.
Succes to you all.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on May 30, 2012, 04:19:11 pm
Oke,this is my last post ever on this forum.

I wanted to order a slim phatty at my dealer today but they where out of stock .
Two minutes later I find a new nord lead 2x for 920 Euro (new ) on the website of my dealer.
Last week it was still 1100 euro
I could not resist an bought it because I had a 2x rack version in the past and sold it and regret it afterwards.
Also getting a 5% coupon from my dealer for my next buy.
I was dreaming of a 2x keyboard for a while until Arturia came to namm with promises .
Till today they promised us 2 release dates,they also promised that you can do all the stuff that is listed in the specs. list.
I'm a stubborn person and that is not always a bad character.
I had Mg,nord,virus,roland in the past and my experience with nord was the best.
Why?
Because it worked without any bugs,never had one problem with it.(and I have done crazy shit with it,midi etc...)
So now I cancelled my pre order of the minibrute.
What could I do ?
Again ,for you people,I hope it works like they promise but I'm not believing someone that fools me twice.
Now I'm done here .
Sorry for my hardcore reactions and my bad English in the past on this forum .
I'm going to play mono and polyphonic shit and save it as a preset by pressing 1 button.
Thank you arturia for messing up my head with fake promises.

Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on May 30, 2012, 05:37:43 pm
Cool. Did you preorder before January 23? Maybe I will get yours.

Edit: It seems like you found a good solution for you, and 6 months from now you will still be able to get a minibrute if you want one. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: lethal_pizzle on May 30, 2012, 06:03:47 pm
Can I just say to those that have waited xx years of their lives without knowing this product existed, only to order and cancel it because of a few weeks wait: Bravo! I shall get my Minibrute all the quicker...
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: jakegetup on May 30, 2012, 07:44:22 pm
Anyone who ordered a Minibrute from a company who has ensured them that they are on the first batch's list of pre orders, should find them delivered within the next 2 weeks. The people on the second batch will be looking at an estimated time of around 1-2 months assuming there are no problems with the first batch. If you haven't allready got yourself on a list and are 1 of 50% of the people who dont get it in the second batch, well you can assume your gunna be looking at getting one around September early October.

This seems to be what the dealerships in the UK are saying and a close freind of mine in the industry is predicting and tbh it's not hard to see why. It takes time to create a product of this nature and as a company they need to make sure they get the balance between quality, and making sure they dont overproduce a product that will seriously financially affect them.

In short...If you're not on the first list dont get so excited because you have a little while to wait, but in the meantime try to forget about it and create music, the thing were all supposed to be buying the synth for in the first place!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Koshdukai on May 31, 2012, 12:37:02 am
MiniBrute May 30th announcement:

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=6275.0;topicseen#msg21239
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: MOKNOW on June 14, 2012, 03:20:23 pm
...hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: MOKNOW on June 14, 2012, 03:23:48 pm
Tomorrow is the mid of june!!!

Where is the GEAR???

Please Arturia, we need more info!!!

Is the real RELEASE on X-Mas???

OMG
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Koshdukai on July 06, 2012, 03:08:24 pm
Is the real RELEASE on X-Mas???
OMG
ehehe, well, to my mind, that's the date I'm point at... to avoid any disapointments and frustration  ;D
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: oim on August 15, 2012, 04:04:36 pm
Tell me if I'm wrong, Arturia thought they'd be able to send thousands (according to the pre-orders) of minibrutes precisely in april but finaly only could send a few in July, and only in US?
Then lied a second time again and again telling other territories would be shipped "later in July"? (probably October)
I guess the guaranty period will be as extendable...
What a skilled communication/management!
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: zedius on August 15, 2012, 06:33:57 pm
I've had some recent communication with Arturia support that causes me concern about the availability of this product. I now believe that any date that specifies "next month" is completely unreliable.

I truly hope that I'm wrong, but I'm not going to hold out hope to see my purchase prior to Christmas. I pre-ordered in February from a small company in the US, and Arturia apparently can't tell me anything about when that specific company will get their shipments.

Although my understanding is that they have repeatedly been telling this company that they'll get their shipments next month, for the past 4 months or so.
Title: Re: Minibrute release date
Post by: Filip on August 20, 2012, 10:47:44 am
keep on keeping on!!! ;D