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Title: Some CS-80V2 quirks
Post by: reddog on March 17, 2010, 05:37:10 am

I've just purchased CS-80V and have updated to CS-80V2 and have noticed some quirks (bugs?).

First, CS-80V2 doesn't respond to MIDI CC6 (CS-80V does).  It responds to all the other MIDI controllers I've tried. It's not a major issue, but puzzling nonetheless.

Second, the text inside the Modulation Matrix is pixellated and almost unreadable. This is in contrast to CS-80V where the text is clear and easily readable.

I'm wondering if this is universal or just a problem with my setup (MacBook Pro 17" 2.4Ghz) or just to my system (10.6.2).  Perhaps I'm missing a particular font.

Third, I've noticed that many of the presets sound slightly different when played on CS-80V2  than they do on CS-80V.  Again this is not a major issue - it could almost be considered a positive to have access to 2 different versions of the same sound.  I'm just wondering what other people's reaction to this is.

Title: Re: Some CS-80V2 quirks
Post by: bg on March 17, 2010, 02:18:31 pm

Quote from: reddog on March 17, 2010, 05:37:10 am

I've just purchased CS-80V and have updated to CS-80V2 and have noticed some quirks (bugs?).

First, CS-80V2 doesn't respond to MIDI CC6 (CS-80V does).  It responds to all the other MIDI controllers I've tried. It's not a major issue, but puzzling nonetheless.

I noticed this too.  I think you'll find that CC98 and 99 also don't work as before.  I believe it is because Version 2 now supports NRPN's.  I can't remember now, but 100 and 101 may also be blocked as they are used for RPN's.  I may be wrong about 100 and 101, but you can check and if they don't work, that's why.  Here's info on NRPN and RPN.
http://artsites.ucsc.edu/EMS/music/tech_background/MIDI/NRPNs.html (http://artsites.ucsc.edu/EMS/music/tech_background/MIDI/NRPNs.html)
If you have hardware that can transmit NRPN's it opens up a vast number of CC's with which to control CS-80V--more than we'll ever need. 

Title: Re: Some CS-80V2 quirks
Post by: reddog on March 18, 2010, 02:30:45 am

Thanks for clearly up that mystery bg.

Yes, you're right, CCs 98,99,100 and 101 don't respond either.

I haven't tried NRPNs, so I'll have to do a little experimenting.

I'd still like to know how the text appears in other people's Modulation Matrix though.

Title: Re: Some CS-80V2 quirks
Post by: onewave on March 22, 2010, 03:25:06 pm

Quote from: reddog on March 18, 2010, 02:30:45 am

I'd still like to know how the text appears in other people's Modulation Matrix though.

The modulation matrix works the way it should under OSX 10.5.8
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff263/bretnorman/Picture1.png)

Title: Re: Some CS-80V2 quirks
Post by: reddog on March 24, 2010, 02:28:38 am

Thanks for your response, onewave.

Maybe it's a Snow Leopard thing. Or I'm missing a system font.