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Title: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: zedius on February 01, 2013, 06:09:12 pm
Hey, just curious how everyone is using the aftertouch? I find it difficult to find a decent aftertouch curve, even after adjusting it in the software. It always feels fairly binary "full on or full off". I've had some joy last night using the rising edge square vibrato to a nice effect, but I have not had so much luck getting a nice, natural feeling vibrato with the sine wave.

How about you all?
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: Quinthius on February 01, 2013, 06:39:30 pm
I feel like it is very sensitive too... either "on" or "off".  However, with a great degree of care you CAN achieve a smooth transition... but you have to go so slow and carefully I wonder if it's even worth it.

Personally I am not using it (no big deal since I have never used aftertouch on anything before) because if I hit a key too hard, which is very easy for me, I get that "full on" either cutoff or vibrato which is usually not what I want to happen.  So it stays disabled. :)

Even with the soft curve it still seems to accelerate way too fast.  I would prefer to have a curve that only increased gradually most of the way, and then only accelerated more dramatically towards the deep end of the range.

Like an L
Laying on its back
But with a little bit of a curve before the bend. :)
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: yusynth on February 01, 2013, 08:04:33 pm
It is true that the Aftertouch is a bit fast. The best result I have is with the exponential curve. Still it triggers very quickly. I think that Bruno@arturia will find a way to improve this in a future update of the firmware.
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: stevism on February 03, 2013, 10:04:43 am
i would LOVE to be able to "draw" the aftertouch curve...if that were possible at all via the software...

i think that would revolutionize how one could integrate it to live playing

right now i use it for very high rate vibrato for "distortion" and cutoff playing when i have high res and want occasional shrieks
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: bsmith on February 26, 2013, 01:21:59 pm
It would be great if we could disable aftertouch altogether using the minibrute connection utility.
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: Quinthius on February 26, 2013, 04:04:46 pm
Why not just disable it with the switch on the unit?  What benefit would there be to using the connection utility for it? 
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: zedius on February 28, 2013, 04:25:13 pm
The other issue I've been finding with the aftertouch is that it  seems to be free running. If I put on a very slow vibrato to try to create a bit of pitch instability, the aftertouch can behave like a switch taking my note instantly down to the bottom extreme of the curve instead of gradually pitching down at the defined rate.

It would be nice to have it triggered at the beginning each time.
Title: Re: How are you using the aftertouch?
Post by: jooechip on March 02, 2013, 12:08:15 am
Raised sth similar here a while back and got a basic, 'ok' from Bruno.

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=12050.0

It's interesting to hook the Minbrute up to a midi monitor and watch the speed/sensitivity of the aftertouch (e.g. compared in my case to a Novation DAW controller). It does come in very quick/easily.

However, over the months I've gotten used to the sensitivity and have now developed a lighter touch when playing on the Minibrute. Those of us used to non-velocity/aftertouch mono analogs (SH 101 for example) could play the keys as hard/soft as we want without any feedback, yet the Minibrute is a different/more musical beast, having both aftertouch for the synth and velocity for midi output into to your DAW.

It could still do with a tweak to ease the way it tends to burst in.

It would be great if we could disable aftertouch altogether using the minibrute connection utility.

In terms of DAW controller use (which of course without midi local on/off implemented is still not 100% feasible),  I'd also like to see this feature as when I tried to use the Minibrute with my DAW, I had to filter out all the aftertouch data that gets recorded unintentionally.